>Can't we say
I pause to point out that "we say" is a subjective perspective, and
perfectly fitting for mythology.
>instead that anyone attempting to experience them through heroquesting is
unable to >distinguish when and where they happen (and for that matter,
which events
>cause others)?
Yes, all that is true. But in fact, for normal people attempting to
experience this, they lose their personal bearings. They have no place of
understanding from which to view. They are not people, and without a
person's perspective lose their very place in the cosmos.
>> Yes, basically because the Green Age ends when
>> humanity's human consciousness begins.
>Or perhaps inidividuals' consciousness, including Uz,
>merpeople, etc. (though not Aldryami, interestingly).
Probably including Aldryami, too, where we mean "the elves." Elves have
individual consciousness. It is just different from human individual
consciousness in many ways, especially that they retain the consciousness
of much (not all) of pre-individuated existence.
>You could say that humans were conscious in some sort
>of group fashion (like the Aldryami) before that.
Yes, you could say that and it may be true for some people in some manner.
The stories indicate it. In Entekosiad we find the "Men's Tribe" (which had
women in it) and the Womens' Tribe (which had men in it). We can see that
groups existed and people were part of those groups. Note, however, that
they did not always have the same idea of what the group was, or was made
up of, and so on.
>> Note that if they do get to the "blue age" then they
>> disappear as individuals.
>I was thinking that any Black Age would negate
>individuality entirely.
When various races attempt to understand, though mythical experience (ie,
Heroquesting) the world before they existed then they must inevitably come
from their current existence. They must inevitably project something of
themselves "back" to that state to understand it. The result is that
darkness creatures find a darkness world, sea creatures a sea world, human
creatures a human world and so on.
When the GL tried those experiments they considered themselves to be
nonhuman when they did merman rituals, and found an aquatic realm; when
they did troll rites they found a darkness realm, and so on.
>The Green Age allows for an understanding of things
>being separate and even being able to say when or
>where they are different. Otherwise, we would really
>be unable to visit it at all. But there is some
>significant inability to place meaning on any
>difference. Sure, you and me are separate things, but
>so what? I don't really get the why of it.
In the Green Age you and I are not separate things. We are members of the
same people, not individual beings. We are the clan, for instance.
I know this is difficult for us to understand in the modern western way of
thinking.
>When the Golden Age begins, the difference is clear.
>You and I are separate. The stifling order of the
>golden age is an attempt to impose a meaning on the
>difference.
Basically correct. As soon as meaning is given to anything, the Green Age
is over.
>Or that's my rudimentary feel for it. It's enough for
>playing and that's all I really care about.
It is plenty.
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