>Zzabur: Sorcerer Supreme, sank whole Land of Vadeli Infidels and Spike,
>horde of Demons from Hell....brought back Ehilm to the Sky, had assassins
>take Hrestol's Life, sank the whole fleet of Emperor Miglos, helped God
>Learners conquering Glorantha (See Glo: Intro HW p.45) , betrayed them and
>moved Brithos to somewhere unknown otherside aside from Closing, made a
>plot to sank whole of Fronela, (but later it was stopped by the act of Prince
>Snodal and Syndics Ban, or he insisted so,.....)
>I think, Brithini Leader was very powerful, and don't know restriction
>except their fear to lose their Immortality in Mundane World, but simply
>they haven't dared to use their power, but let their pupil God Learners to
>do so.....
I think the Brithini are more subtle than that. After all, most Gloranthans fear death but their rulers still aspire to take over the world.
IMO it needs to be borne in mind that the Talars, and not Zzabur, rule Brithos. Secondly I like to suggest that the Talars have usurped much of leadership functions that other castes have had in order to create a Talarcracy rather than the ancient republic ruled jointly by all castes.
An example of the Talarcracy in action is the structure of the Brithini army. Although Horals do the actual fighting, the Talars are its generals and officers. Surely when Malkion defined the original castes, the Horals would have had their own leaders? Likewise the Dronar farmers are probably similarly checked by Talar stewards.
The Zzaburi present a difficult problem because Zzabur and his colleagues are so great. IMO the Talars have insulated the Zzaburi from the Brithini and vice versa. Instead of dealing with the Horals and Dronars directly as might have been done in the old days, the Zzaburi live in remote towers and are heavily dependent on the Talars to tell them what's going on and what should be done.
I do not believe that the Talars dominate Brithos solely for its own power. Instead they have memories of life during the Gods War when the Castes were all in confusion and squabbling with each other. Only the Talars imposition of order enabled Brithos to survive the great darkness. Because of this, the Talars view their social order as ideal and that any tampering with it inevitably sows the seeds of Brithos's destruction.
Zzabur and the Talars probably keep in touch with each other so that both sides have a rough idea of what's being done (Zzabur plans to close the Oceans this week while the Talars are putting the finishing touches on a treaty with the God Learners) and if necessary make other arrangements. Neither can interfere with each other, one due to lack of power and the other due to lack of awareness so both work together in harmony.
I don't think Zzabur is at all concerned with the defense of Brithos any more than Orlanth is responsible for the defense of Dragon Pass. Instead he pursues his own schemes which the Talars dimly understand. In defending their realm, the Talars rely on the Horals and lesser Zzaburi although they do have a valuable weapon in that they know what Zzabur will do.
So what is the aims of the Talars of Brithos? For a start, they are concerned with maintaining their social dominance in Brithos. Being Zzabur's henchmen is probably one of the safest perpetual jobs in glorantha. Likewise they have an interest in minimizing foreign contact with Brithos so that the Brithini are kept away from new ideas.
From time to time, members of other castes challenge the Talars' rule. This isn't intentionally done but arises as they try to understand what it means to be a soldier, farmer or wizard. If the Talars allow them to do so, then they risk eroding their power. It may not be immediately obvious but with their long life spans, they can see the inevitable outcome in other Malkioni nations.
Because of this, the Talars concede as little as possible and instead prefer to exile the troublemakers. I don't think Brithos is a land of secret police, but rather than the Talars convince the troublemakers over the years that it's best for both that they leave Brithos. The exiles have the freedom to do what they feel they should be doing while the Talars see their wisdom of their order confirmed when most exiles grow old and die.
The need to maintain their own dominance compels the Talars to restrict the spread of strange ideas. If concepts like every village having its own wizard, great generals that rose from the ranks or belief in an afterlife became public knowledge in Brithos then their control over Brithini society would be much weakened. This is the primary reason why the Talars do not like wars of conquests as the Horals will become exposed to strange ideas with potentially disastrous results - martial law being the least of their fears.
On the other hand, isolationism is not an option for the Talars. If they do not keep the neighboring lands and seas peaceful, then they risk invasion and foreign ideas being forcibly introduced into Brithos.
For this reason, I believe the Talars maximize peaceful relations by encouraging their neighbors to be good, civilized Malkioni. Gifts of knowledge, magic and occasional exiles go a long way in spreading knowledge of Malkioni ideals and encouraging respect for Brithos. Ideally the Talars would like to see the whole world malkionized which explains their support for the Waertagi and later the God Learners.
So why did the God Learners go to war with Brithos? IMO the Talars had been allies of the Waertagi because they felt it best to allow only one power that to control access to Brithos.
But the Talars seriously underestimated the growing power of the Seshnegi, the Loskalmi and later the Jrusteli. When the battle of Tanian's Victory was fought, the Talar's were left foolish because a hostile power united by a doctrine hostile to Zzabur (the Abiding Book) was now capable of reaching Brithos.
I think the Talars put off conflict with the God Learners as long as they could with concessions like Open Ports on the Brithini mainland. In the meantime, they were trying to find some way of persuading Zzabur to assist without letting on that they cocked everything up. When Emperor Miglos's Fleet was sunk, the Brithini used the Fireberg crisis to force the God Learner Empire into making concessions and an alliance.
Why did Brithos close the Oceans? I don't believe the Talars had anything to do with the Closing as they were probably quite happy with the God Learner Empire as it was (cf similar blindness and happiness with the Waertagi alliance). Rather it was Zzabur acting on his own initiative because the God Learners were abusing his arts and that he could feel the consequences.
--Peter Metcalfe
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