Re: Resurrection

From: wbcreighton <wbcreighton_at_...>
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:52:48 -0000


From: "Juha Ratilainen" <jualra_at_u...> Date: Thu Feb 19, 2004 10:13 am
Subject: Re: Resurrection

Maybe the group could use the 'Elmal Guards the Stead' myth from Storm Tribe (p. 56) - kind of hijack the deceased into his self-resurrection quest as per the Secret of Elmal Hearthguard (p.53). They could summon (with Summoning of Evil ritual) the chaos demons to test his soul and maybe act as supporting clansfolk in the Great Darkness.

Of course, failing in this quest would mean that not only to the Elmali staying dead but also that his soul would be eaten by chaos and not get to its promised afterlife...

Anyway, this way the Elmali would have VERY active role and the others could give support. No idea how the elves could fit in, though.

It IS stretching the idea of what you can do with heroquests, I think, but it's an dramatic option and at least could work IMG.

Juha Ratilainen

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Thanks Juha for the great ideas. Of course the whole "Elaml Guards the Stead" is exactly what I'm looking for. Which leads into how the elves are involved. I'm thinking that another god who stayed put: the son of Chalana Arroy, Arroin. Taking from the CA:Arroin myths, he was a friend of the aldryami and the King High Elf ( Cult Compendium). We also know that Vivamort (CC) encountered Arroin and wounded him. Arroin at some point lost his healing magic and only has healing skills now (CC).

So lets say Arroin and Elmal meet up somehow during the LBQ. Or it might not be during LBQ since Time wouldn't exist at that point(??). What do you think? Maybe Vivamort crashes the party. I won't go into too much detail because I know that some of the players read this list. ( You know who you are, Tim)

 My whole idea is stretching things since the group probably isn't fully ready for a HQ but "dramatic" is why I'm playing in the first place. Their going to have to rely on those enigmatic aldryami to guide them part of the way.

Warren  

>From: "Matthew Cole" <matthew.cole_at_b...>
>Date: Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:09 pm
>Subject: RE: Resurrection

>Hi Warren

>I don't claim to be an expert but the most famous Orlanthi heroquest
for
resurrection is known as the Lightbringer's Quest {LBQ}. Sorry if you already know about this and need something elvish but, in case that's not it:

I did a quick google and noticed that there is quite a lot of material available, some of it even from Issaries (!:) on

http://www.glorantha.com/library/religions/coplightbringers. html#quest

There is also a more complete version here:

http://www.wpgaudin.demon.co.uk/RQuest/olbq.htm  (I didn't read it all but I think it has the right ideas).

Orlanth used this quest to bring back the Emperor, Yelm the Sun, whom he
had killed previously (Storm Tribe {ST} p6). Now Elmal (keeping to HeroWars publications for definition), the heortling Warrior God of the
Sun (ST p45), originated in the Fire Tribe with Yelm but he left the fire tribe when Chalana Arroy healed his blindness that was caused by his own light. Elmal later joined the Storm Tribe and was left behind to
keep the world together during the long dark so that Orlanth could re-create it at the dawn. I'm getting to the bit you could use... (from
ST p 47) "When Orlanth returned from the Underworld, he bore a sacred torch. He cast it high into the sky so that it flew to wher Elmal waited. Elmal caught it and was healed so that he burned brightly again
to welcome the return of Orlanth...".

Another part of the Elmal mythology that would interest is the part in the Otherworld Home and Life After Death section. It's the last sentence: "They always muster to defend the Storm Realm against invaders, however."

Something else. Remember the Chalana Arroy could resurrect using Divine
Magic? Well, p44 ST describes the Chalana Arroy secret, a ritual called
Resurrect Other that requires a quest to the underworld to bring back the soul of the dearly departed. This is a part of the aforementioned LBQ. The Lightbringers' Quest has quite a number of references in the Storm Tribe Index but please do ask here for more insight if you require it! I'm sure there will be many who will be pleased to help.

Hope this helps.
Matthew

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Thanks Matthew for the great links and ideas. That info really got the ball rolling and with the ideas from this list I was inspired to "find" some myths that will fit the game. The HQing idea has really got the player's attention.

Warren

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