RE: Re: dialect/jargon

From: Andrew Solovay <asolovay_at_...>
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:10:19 -0800


donald_at_...
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> In message <BAY103-F606D489CD6A78087BD228A8660_at_...> "Mike Holmes" writes:
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> > I agree, but that's why I said "at a high level." That is, I imagine most
> > tradetalk actually occurs at the default 6 level. But that Merchants should
> > get it at keyword level. Some master merchant with 5W Tradetalk might be
> > able to speak to another merchant in a way to expedite communication, but
> > which would also alienate the casual trade talk person.
> >
> > Or maybe not, just a theory. Maybe having it at high level might actually
> > make it easier to understand.
>
> I think it just gets more specialised at higher levels. An Etyries
> merchant can explain double entry bookkeeping in Tradetalk. The
> average speaker would go "Uhhh, why would I want to know that?"

Another possibility that occurs to me: Tradetalk may be, among other things, a skill (partly magical) for *devising* pidgins on the fly. That is, two skilled Tradetalkers might end up starting off their communication on an elementary level, and progressing to have a much more elaborate "private language" by the end of the bargaining session. (An equally skilled tradetalker, walking in on the end of the session, might be baffled by their language--though they could use their skill to bring him up to speed quickly.

*If* this idea is plausible--I expect there's still a lot that tradetalkers could do right away. e.g. Merchanting might go like this (assuming, of course, that the merchants don't share a mundane common language):

Merchants without tradetalk: bare basics, like "I'll give you this much silver for three of those"

Merchants with journeyman tradetalk, right from the start: "How old is this?" "Who here can vouch for you?" "How was it made? [if answer can be shown with gestures, or very simple words]"

Merchants with journeyman tradetalk, after they've been talking a while: "Where did you get the materials for this?" "Twelve silver? Do you want to see my children begging in the streets?" "I'll be re-selling this to the trolls of Yolp Mountain, and if it breaks, they'll know where I got it from."

Higher tradetalk skills improve the learning speed and the complexity of information you can convey at any level. And a tradetalker can also communicate with a non-tradetalker, though with a hefty penalty--so a highly skilled tradetalker can get along fairly well with any human. (Bigger penatly dealing with non-humans, of course.)

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