Re: Sleepytime Ernalda

From: Jeff Richard <richaje_at_...>
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 18:04:25 -0000


> > Until Queen Day, the Ernaldans do not know what happened to
their
> > goddess - just that she cannot be contacted at all. After Queen
> > Day, they know Ernalda sleeps. The Orlanthi don't know what
> > happened to Orlanth until Broyan returns.
> But more to the point, the GM doesn't know.

And that is ok. All that matters is that Orlanth and Ernalda cannot be contacted during the Windstop.

> > That's a pretty strong implication. Ernalda and Orlanth are
joined
> > at the hip, so to say. Orlanth disappears, Ernalda mourns and
goes
> > to sleep. Kind of riff on the Persephone-Demeter myth.
> In Sartar, yes (though ISTR she hangs around actually doing
something useful
> for quite a while - she isn't just a useless parasite, you know!)

Are you saying Demeter was a useless parasite?

>But in
> other lands?

Yes, in other lands.

> And if Orlanth is fundamentally more important to Ernalda than are
the other
> husband -protectors then the Esrolians would seem to have Got It
Wrong.

I don't think the Esrolians necessarily disagree. Orlanth might be more important to Ernalda than the other husbands. He isn't more important to the Esrolians and to the other goddesses. And Orlanth is dangerous and needs to be watched (kind of like Kali).

> Which is not a meaningful concept unless you go back to the
objective/God
> Learner viewpoint of Glorantha.

There are underlying mythical truths or archetypes in Glorantha (and for that matter the RW). Don't assume that everything has already been heroquested beyond all recognition - Orlanth is not a God Learner construct, Harmast did not invented the LBQ, Arkat did not create Humakt and so on. Sure, there have been some heroquesting constructs, but no where near as many as some folk seem to think.

That being said, the God Learners were often terribly misinformed as to the nature of Glorantha, the gods and these underlying mythical truths. The God Learners never understood Orlanthi mythology (heck, they thought the Orlanthi didn't have a sun god, were completely unaware of the Allfather aspect of Orlanth, and didn't understand the role of Heort at all), they had not idea about Dara Happan mythology (no idea about Shargash and figured they were the same as the Pentans), and so on.

Jeff

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