RE: Re: Sleepytime Ernalda

From: Jane Williams <janewilliams20_at_...>
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:06:03 -0000


> > I don't know. What's Lolapalooza?
>
> Sorry, I was making a lame reference to the 90s band, Jane's
> Addiction.

Never heard of it, but then if it's pop music, I wouldn't have.  

> Until Queen Day, the Ernaldans do not know what happened to their
> goddess - just that she cannot be contacted at all. After Queen
> Day, they know Ernalda sleeps. The Orlanthi don't know what
> happened to Orlanth until Broyan returns.

But more to the point, the GM doesn't know.  

> > > Come on Jane, it is mentioned repeatedly on pages 43-49.
> > No, the fact of her being asleep is mentioned, with no explanation
> given of
> > how she got that way. There's an implication that it's all
> connected with
> > Orlanth being dead, but that's never stated explicitly that I can
> find.
>
> That's a pretty strong implication. Ernalda and Orlanth are joined
> at the hip, so to say. Orlanth disappears, Ernalda mourns and goes
> to sleep. Kind of riff on the Persephone-Demeter myth.

In Sartar, yes (though ISTR she hangs around actually doing something useful for quite a while - she isn't just a useless parasite, you know!) But in other lands?

> > > > In Esrolia, where she has six (at least) husband-protectors?
> Would killing
> > > > off any one of them have the same result?
> > Why not? Six husband-protectors. Not one. And she's not dependent
> on them anyway, it's the other way round.

> I think that Ernalda and Orlanth are fundamentally linked. That's
> not true of Ernalda and the other husband-protectors. Additionally,
> some of the husband-protectors are not husbands of Ernalda, but of
> Esrola.

Who is an aspect of Great Ernalda...

And if Orlanth is fundamentally more important to Ernalda than are the other husband -protectors then the Esrolians would seem to have Got It Wrong. Which is not a meaningful concept unless you go back to the objective/God Learner viewpoint of Glorantha.

> > According to OiD it was the final and decisive one. Sure, there
> were
> > preparations beforehand. But WW was what delivered the killing
> blow. P45,
> > top grey box.
>
> That's right. I don't think Greg is saying otherwise.

Let me check exactly what he did say:

"Becasue, as you may or may not know, it was not the taking of Whitewall that
killed Orlanth."

Well, it was. You, I, LC, and more importantly OiD all agree. Greg didn't say "it was not ONLY the taking of WW", which I'd agree with. Possibly he meant to, and the keyboard slipped, but he didn't.

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