Re: What's Happening on the Lists?

From: julianlord <julian.lord_at_nQDrA3emdprllgJpKsWLdIU4vMX2XAseHvPj_IMjT3vHKykn68GpPk8WofliDOYa>
Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2007 07:36:23 -0000


Jeff Richard :

> > > The issue seems to be whether everything that has been written
> > > needs to be incorporated into everything that will be written.
> > > I say no, others say yes.
> >
> > Personally, I like continuity. Old writings may be contradicted -
if
> > it is done with respect and humility, to quote the Arkati maxim of
> > heroquesting.
>
> Old writings by who? What is a contradiction? The Dorastor book
> refers to Humakt and Orlanth - Greg and I are now using local names
> like Enbaktavar and Viskuranth. Is that a contradiction?

Yes it is --- names are in fact very important, and it is both dangerous and foolish to mess around with them to the degree that is implicit here. I do not want to think about Enbaktawho? or Viskuwhohe? --- there is a point beyond which sensible suggestions that various diferent names may exist locally become ridiculous and basically unacceptable, including from the philological, literary, and philosophical points of view.

It's true that pre-GL Monomyth Glorantha would have a wider profusion of related/unrelated local myths, names, mythologies, etc than is extant in the current literature --- but IMO these would be generally irrelevant from the points of view of the ends of the 2nd and 3rd Ages that this literature describes, and it is hard to see how useful any of these silly binge anthropowanking would be for any real life gaming.

> You should see how many different ways Greg and I have spelled
Lhankor
> Mhy recently....

Honestly ? Who could possibly give a flying fuck ?

> > The problem is that in a couple of cases, the rest of the tribe
> > doesn't keep up with those directions, probably lacking the trail
> > which brought you there.
>
> OK, I am a little confused by this one here.

Greg's Glorantha is in danger of becoming fairly schizoid, given that no matter what he may do, invent, or write about in private, nothing he can do will alter the fact that GAG is in fact generally accepted.

I cannot see the point of writing for the tiny minority in the audience who might realise that Orlanth's and Humakt's subcults used to be various different cults that were unified by the GLs, well apart from the Unfinished Works audience AKA Peter that is --- in the real world, articles about Enbaktawho? and Viskuwhohe? will only engender confusion and boredom about Greg's constant retconning of our core Gloranthan knowledge. Or is that "knowledge"? Beyond a certain point, you just stop caring, and think about something else instead...

> > The creative community that created that tribe gets
> > discouraged by YGWV ("meaning everything I try to contribute is
> > pointless") as much as by One-True-Wayisms.
>
> YGWV does not mean "everything you try to contribute is pointless".

But he's right, YGWV does in fact imply exactly that.  

Julian            

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