I do not own WBRM, unfortunately...
What I mean is that actual/2007/2008 gloranthan ideas, like vexillations and standard deities, are much more 'roman' (even if they sound revisions to RQ1 era players) than 'marble phalanx' or 'beryl phalanx' broad concepts. These 'new' concepts belong to a deeper layer of knowledge of the real roman army than the average person owns.
I own Pavis & Big Rubble and Borderlands (original edition) and apart from names finishing with 'us' (Raus?) and the Iron Centurion, I find little 'roman' references. Not more, anyway, than I find persian or greek or western (country) references.
*Probably* in the fifteen or so years between Borderlands and Imperial Lunar Handbook 1 many enthusiastic fans put more 'roman' flavour in the scarce information that was provided for the Lunars than it was intended by the original authors and Greg in particular.
But the Lunars were always intended as a mix.
The Romans, certainly, were: they absorbed armies, tactics and weapons from every people they conquered and were very flexible and pragmatic in using armed forces. Not just 'standard' Legions, but everything that was available at the given moment, place and mood.
The Romans of Scipio Africanus were similar to hellenistic celts.
The Romans of Theodosius were similar to Franks (in our scholastic conception of Franks) with Palanthins and eunuchs around the Emperor and barbarians in the forward ranks: they employed even goths, huns, arabs and camel-mounted troops to maintain the status quo and to fight the Great Enemy, the Sassanid.
- Ven 13/3/09, Rob <lamorak33_at_...> ha scritto:
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Oggetto: R: Re: Off topic romans
A: whitewall_at_yahoogroups.com
Data: Venerdì 13 marzo 2009, 14:23
Post Marius though, the legionary format did mean that men from different countries did march as legionaires though? That much is true isn't it?
Also, when you look at the Lunar Empire as presented in WB&RM and many of the counters you get a distinctly Roman rather than Persian feeling.
We had years of Roman type fun/artwork/ stories in Glorantha before the Persian idea.
Regards, Rob
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> Oggetto: Re: Off topic romans
> A: whitewall_at_yahoogrou ps.com
> Data: Venerdì 13 marzo 2009, 12:12
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> > Like Egyptian history or medieval english history, for what they're worth :-)
> > Please, use an adult approach OR choose to rely on a childish idea of it (like Asterix is) but don't claim that everybody must translate history to childish-basic concepts when adults are listening.
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> Ouch. Did you mean that to sound so pompous and rude? I thought I had strayed onto Immoderate Heroquest or caught a stray bullet from Peter Metcalfe/Jeff Richard..... :^)
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