What I called "ash" in a fit of old-timers, is thorn.
http://acunix.wheatonma.edu/mdrout/GrammarBook2007/ch2.html
My bad. :(
So, yes, sing "Eth, ash, and thorn". :)
Or
Grimmund
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Alison Place <alison_place_at_NbTon9U7dzR1FYgPOvW_h-cIe4uBNLxLjJyWZrFVsaWivaz93fsR5YzRx7MZylpk3zGwRu9tw5QYWx_H-o2avZA.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> Thanks, Grimmund! I could remember the letter 'thorn' (which I can't seem to
> import from my symbols list - it's actually the one that ends up looking
> like a 'y', but started off more like a 'p'), but not the name for
> 'eth'/'ash'.
>
> Finally got around to checking out the old characters, and was amused to see
> that the medieval scribes got completely confused themselves about whether
> they wanted to use thorns, ashes, 'y's or wynns (something that also used to
> look like a 'p', but was a 'w' sound). Eventually they chucked them all, and
> just used 'th' for all the 'th' sounds.
>
> Anyway, thanks for the clarification. Ash and thorn - should be able to
> remember them. In fact, can't seem to get "Oak and ash and thorn" out of my
> head, now!
> http://sniff.numachi.com/pages/tiOAKASHTH.html
>
> Alison
>
> ------------------------
>
> On Tue, 7/22/08, Grimmund <grimmund_at_oFc2HAJDKxXM2bdB7mklnJufBQF9eCU9-NLOWMrkfkJ4cK4h91csJWLFUS1nfnlgz3_6XnMCbkFILU4.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> Small correction, probably way late in the game.
>
> That little funny looking d character -> ð is an eth, pronounced /th/.
>
> The related Old English character is an ash, looks something like a crooked
> y, the source of all those "ye old shoppe" signs, which were originally an
> ash, and mistaken by moderns as a y. Both are sometimes voiced and sometimes
> voiceless, and seem to be used interchangeable, at least in Old English.
>
>> > 'fem. gyðja = goddess and priestess'
>> gythja
>
>> > (Like goði is both god and priest)
>> gothi
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