Well it is said that Erland, the son of Mad King Malan was struck down and cursed as an ogre after the attempted kinslaying of his father in a pact with the Gori. And that the ghost of the Ogre King of Dragon Pass and his Earth Priestess Widow haunt Malan's stead still!!!
Mike
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> From: p3larsen_at_LKuAu8etTBjdum-r2SqBbWYsI3P-4aRpEuMSh5aJ55tpt5E6ASIsOfi4d7P2VkjdlcrsiohgAq8yFvM.yahoo.invalid
> Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:24:37 -0400
> Subject: Ogres -- was: The Thing With Many Bodies
>
> While I can certainly see chaos creatures using whatever horrible
> reproductive methods the GM might wish (and the players will stand hearing
> about), I think that ogres reproduce just like normal humans, with all the
> various schemes, emotions, and entanglements that produces (plus, of course,
> the possibility of eating the partner, which is usually absent in normal
> human interactions).
>
> I like this because it gives several sources for ogres:
>
> 1) Ogres raised by ogres. Baby shifts to solid food and learns to eat people
> along with other solid food. As Baby grows up, Baby learns ogre culture and
> understands ogre nature.
>
> 2) Ogre raised by humans. This would crop up mostly when a male ogre
> abandons a pregnant human woman, but could also happen if an ogre baby is
> lost and found by humans, an ogre family is killed and a baby is mistaken
> for a victim, whatever. The child grows up as a "latent ogre," socialized as
> a human and normal except for the occasional odd dream or urge. Many may
> never express their ogre nature at all, marrying into their adopted society
> and propagating ogreness into the community. Others have some sort of
> traumatic even that brings these urges to the fore -- exposure to dead human
> flesh and blood, extreme physical or mental trauma, experience with chaos,
> getting into trouble with the gods and spirits by breaking taboos and losing
> the protection of society's guardians, etc.
>
> 3) Humans who are cursed with ogreness for crimes against the gods, spirts,
> nature, whatever, or by falling under the sway of unwholesome powers. Since
> there is no way to know who was a "made ogre" and who was a "latent ogre"
> woken up by the event, this reinforces the taboos of society.
>
> Anyway, that is my thought on that.
>
> Peter Larsen
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:43 AM, In_a_flat_field
> <beautychokes_at_TfjowN_oaxycLoxmvxHfzEte77e4adTv-dwTkWMXrWFq38ciQlw1qhOGPdoyoGbUxaq7Y7D_mnVKSnBpLoFyki1s.yahoo.invalid>wrote:
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> >
> >
> > Ahhh. Interesting. That said, I was still going along cosmic horror lines.
> > The idea that this is a being with a single consciousness and many seemingly
> > normal and yet corrupted bodies (which explode into a chaos of tentacles at
> > the worst possible moment) is one I like. As far as the infiltration of the
> > womb goes....I'm thinking that this happens almost literally. Perhaps the
> > woman breaks some kind of pregnancy taboo. Maybe the Thing comes to the
> > dreams of the clan women who bear no children. It wears the form of a
> > beautiful goddess and she/it offers fertility. Perhaps a single living
> > fragment of the horror creeps INTO a sleeping womans womb and devours the
> > unborn child, replacing it with a sort of changeling. In this way, the thing
> > can insinuate itself into a stead over a lifetime....or worse, over
> > generations.
> > Although I can definitely see the similarities, ogres seem more like a race
> > that propogate themselves via rape and adultery. They do what they do to
> > survive (although they're horribly evil). The Thing With Many Bodies attacks
> > the morale and purity of the clan in a host of fashions. It's more like a
> > familial curse than anything else. I'm now of the mind that there should be
> > some kind of seasonal test of purity conducted by Urox's followers. A bit
> > like that bit in John Carpenter's 'The Thing' whereby the blood of the
> > survivors is tested in an open flame. Only significantly more brutal. That
> > way, the people don't resort repeatedly to the Urox followers ritual. It's
> > just too savage and often results in the deaths of those entirely pure.
> > For the record, I'm also going to have it absorb the bodies and souls of
> > those it slays, keeping the clans bold ancestors trapped inside its
> > multifarious selves.
> > Would you say that's still too similar to ogres? I value any opinion on the
> > matter. :)
> >
> > --- In WorldofGlorantha_at_yahoogroups.com<WorldofGlorantha%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > hcarteau_at_... wrote:
> > >
> > > Selon In_a_flat_field <beautychokes_at_...>:
> > >
> > > > (I'm thinking that it has some kind of fertility connection. I'm all
> > for
> > > > infiltration...what about the wombs of the clans women?) , but I really
> > > > appreciated reading the learned community's take on the matter! ;)
> > >
> > > /// Your Glorantha is yours, but what you suggest is in fact well-known :
> > it is
> > > OGRES. They are very handsome (with flashing teeth) and they like to
> > seduce
> > > women so their race spreads. And yes, they do eat humans (which they call
> > > food-men). "Eat your ennemy in secret" is their motto.
> > >
> > > The thing with many bodies I see more as a cthuloid horror, perhaps the
> > > manifestation of the clan's fears and dark secrets.
> > >
> >
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