Re: Spiking the spikes

From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph_at_lo_Z41pasjVGqPcmdASwr9EM21F5d3fV9J-VA2dK92bvLYAA07y9wb0NdvFSvm7btNB>
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:54:12 +1300

On 11/12/2010 9:15 AM, Kevin McDonald wrote:
> I was merely exploring your very interesting suggestion that Belintar saw a
> connection between the Magasta's Pool and the Pool of Serenity via the Blue
> Moon, the Artmali and the Camp of Innocence.
I made no such suggestion about Belintar. *I* adduced the Blue Moon connection to support my belief that Magasta's Pool was a big hole _before_ the Gods War.

> Since there is already a
> (possibly very deep) pool of water near the Camp of Innocence then that
> makes a better candidate for the actual Pool of Serenity IMHO.
I'm not too sure where this pool of water near the camp of innocence comes from. It does not appear in the Revealed Mythologies of Beautiful Afidisa. For the Agimori to have knowledge of the Camp, all that is needed is for the Artmali to say "We come from the Camp of Innocence" without explaining where it was.

> If Belintar
> was confining his observations to things in or around Genertela then the
> entire connection seems a stretch. Magasta's Pool> Blue Moon> Artmali>
> Camp of Innocence> Pool of Serenity.

The Blue Moon going down through Magasta's Pool is not a stretch but an observation in or around Genertela. If the Blue Moon went down the Pool of Serenity before the Gods War then there would have been Artmali living there and they wouldn't have been too far from their fellows in Fonrit.

> BTW, whose myths include the Camps? I only seem them in Western myth maps or
> God Learnerish maps. Is that something that Belintar would know about?
Belintar being a post-God Learner would know about the Directional Camps. They appear in Dara Happan Mythology (the Fortunate Succession). The original camps are the Amber Camp (in the east), the Bronze Camp (in the south), the Alabaster Camp (in the north) and the Scarlet Camp (in the west). The Bronze Camp is probably Alkoth (remember these myths are written from the viewpoint of the Footstool in Raibanth) while the Scarlet Camp is Carantes. The Alabaster and Amber Camps are similarly local but I can't quite figure out where they lie.

Stepping forward to Nysalor's Empire of Light and the Camps get extended even further away, being placed at the limits of the known world rather than at the limits of what Yelm ruled during the Good Old Days. And from there, it's only a short step to the God Learners and the Monomyth. So when the Artmali myth about the Camp of Innocence is discovered, the God Learners click their fingers at the supposed confirmation of one of the directional camps.

--Peter Metcalfe