As I reread my post, I seem to imply that the term "heroquesting" was invented by me. Of course, the term "heroquesting" is not mine. It is a Gloranthan term. I was trying to imply that this was my way of explaining the term and not necessarily a complete or the right one. It was poorly written, beg pardon.
Rob
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Rob Thornton <oblate777_at_j2jTju1PL-3lVlE7I1BjjtwqqrFM94tcJgP2LQdmh5qc8eJ49sHoKaMKmfT4kqvxPkbQtfZAAhvd4NE.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> Michael,
>
> I am still trying to understand the Otherside myself (I believe that other
> names for it include the Godtime and the Hero Plane) so I will try to
> provide another perspective. I am a newbie myself in many ways so bear with
> me--others will have to correct me perhaps.
>
> The Otherside is very much a place that is part dream and part myth. It is
> where the Gods and your ancestors reside. It is not the Spirit World
> (shamanistic cultures) and it is not the Essence Plane (sorcerers aka
> Malkioni). It is the source of magic for those who believe in
> Gods. However, the Otherplace is very tricky and very dangerous for most
> people. I think it is made of Godstuff--your dreams, your nightmares, your
> hopes, are reflected in its substance and not in ways that are evident to
> you.
>
> Most of the time, your people can use ritual, belief, and the power
> inherent in certain place/times/things to minimize the dangers of the
> Godtime and maximize the benefits. This happens when your people re-enact
> myths to initiate youth, ensure fertility, protect against Chaos, and so
> on.
>
> Sometimes, heroes find new ways and new powers in the Godtime by learning
> secrets about the Gods and their ways. They devise/"find" new rituals from
> those secrets and, as a result, discover new and useful powers inherent in
> them. This is what I call "heroquesting." (Comment: The idea of
> heroquesting sounds simple in practice but putting it into play can be
> difficult. Research and reading about myth will come in handy here).
>
> However, some of the most powerful, knowledgable, and determined heroes
> can learn ways to connect rituals and knowledge from many
> different traditions and gods together, and they can manipulate the
> Godtime in ways that are unimaginable to most mortals. This is
> called "experimental heroquesting." Naturally, the rewards are unimaginable
> as well but the risks are beyond belief as well.
>
> A people called the God Learners became masters of experimental
> heroquesting and did things to the Godtime that beggared belief. Until
> Glorantha herself rose up against them and annihilated the God Learners
> utterly. In the most recent Age of Glorantha (the Third), "God Learner" is
> a terrible epithet meant for those who would tamper with the Gods
> themselves.
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 12:56 PM, Phil Hibbs <snarks_at_A5oOAtpLwSNOBHeYlD6lPieNjqvS0mzO4X55hkwTMFrqzzaX3b-td70Pxg3xQc2nK2REdTqrCgxOu70.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> All answers are my personal speculation, perhaps Jeff will correct me if
>> my
>> thoughts are "My Glorantha Varying"...
>>
>> Michael:
>>
>> >I assume there is ritual to get there.
>>
>> Usually, but you can stumble in there by accident sometimes.
>>
>>
>> >What happens to your body? Do you disappear or does your body stay
>> > here in the real world and your soul go to the otherworld?
>>
>> Mostly it goes with you, I think. It depends.
>>
>>
>> >What happens if you are killed there?
>>
>> I think that depends on how "deep" you are. Also from a game mechanics
>> point of view different sets of rules and different quest writeups say
>> different things about death. Quite often, death is just a minor setback.
>> At other times, it may result in total destruction of the soul. Tricky
>> question.
>>
>>
>> >Is the god world and the spirit world the same? Are there spirits
>> floating around everywhere?
>>
>> Not the same - not usually anyway.
>>
>>
>> >What about all of your dead ancestors? If there are there, that would be
>> a lot of fricken people!
>>
>> If you go to the Hall of Orlanth, then yes, all your ancestors are there,
>> all good Orlanthi who ever lived. Orlanth's hall stretches as far as you
>> can see, eagles soar over the storm clouds that gather half way to the
>> rafters, and getting from one side to the other can take an eternity. But
>> you're in the God Time, and an eternity is not very long at all if you set
>> your mind to it. If you get distracted, though, you can end up never
>> returning home. Which might not be so bad, if the distraction is a
>> pleasant
>> one, but your mortal relatives will miss you.
>>
>> Phil Hibbs.
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