Re: Is Spell Trading the hallmark of a vampire squid?

From: Glass <glass_at_kfeyFtaF57tbixgNESlPdhPUKk-x9CJEUJ9LaHPoObDX2y3NeisrGiUW4t-FSkS_966Uvx>
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:24:48 -0000

> A spirit is not undead, even if it is the spirit of someone who died. A "ghost" is the spirit of the dead that haunts the living - it is not necessarily undead (and usually isn't, I suspect). It might be a part of the soul that refuses to take the Path of the Dead, or maybe it might be cursed by a magician or god, but probably isn't the horrible perversion of Life that is Undead.

Can we back up a minute here?

Using the term "undead" to refer to unheimliche or unheilige remainders of the dead is a relatively modern innovation in itself -- a "god learner concept." Stoker appears to have invented it, and from there it was applied to a widening range of morbid phenomena and folklore.

If maximal Gloranthan fidelity (mgf) is what we want here, we might save a lot of grief by abandoning the term entirely.

Vivamort's rune originally meant Hunger. Let's start with that. Vampires are hungry dead. Ghouls probably are, too.

Gark had a different rune. Zombies are horrible for being "quiet" or maybe "slow" dead.

Delecti would be the first to tell us he is as always sui generis.

And I always thought the old Spirit rune performed flawlessly for ancestor and hero cults, which deal with the more or less disembodied dead all the time.            

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