On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Simon Phipp <soltakss_at_YdGQqgA6FoZg9B_g8SOZSpas4E11tgLTlC0TbLpbCWRjerUm_G5w1spBHTczt2pN7bkQTZNSTZCV.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> Richard Hayes:
>
> > Seconding Peter's view below, my recollection was that the Print
> > was associated with a battle between Larnste and Krarsht, and not
> > Lodril.
>
The Print is Larnste's footprint. He steped on Krarsht and was bitten. The foulblood Forest was made by his infected and mutated blood.
When Lodril broke free and came to the surface, he did so not at the
> Vent but beneath what is now Shadow Plateau, which is a lot closer to
> the Print.
Lodril's spear erupted a the Vent.
> He blew a cloud of ash and turned a chaos army to stone in
> the Print, the bodies of which can still be seen.
Correct.
> Argan Argar then
> defeated Lodril, sliced the top of the mountain and forced Lodril to
> build the Palace of Black Glass.
This is a different act.
> The Vent was formed when Caladra burst forth to defeat a Chaos army
> later on, so it is a different place entirely, despite what the
> Lodril writeup in White Wolf said.
I wrote the material in the original WW article. The Caladra story parallels some of this, but the volcano erupted several times.
> However whilst there is a big gap between Peloria and the Print,
> > the name of Lodril would have been known in the Empire of
> > Ezkankekko, through Argan Argar's victory over Lodril. Would the
> > myth of Lodril's defeat and imprisonment by Argan Argar also be
> > known in Peloria too, though not perhaps in the same way as it is
> > in Kethaela?
>
Yes, it certainly could.
> The myth would probably be known by the Priests but not widely
> preached. As far as the peasants are concerned, Lodril remained
> beneath the earth far away. But, don't forget that Lodril has many
> faces - Invisible Spear, Immortal Demigod, Sky Spear, Volcano God,
> Creator of the Agimori, God of the Underworld, Father of Many, Ruler
> of the Portion of Below and so on.
God Learnerism says these are all one entity. Not everything the GL discerned was incorrect, but some of it was (and the conclusions that they ultimately drew from their observations/analysis (i.e.- this god = that god) were incorrect).
I hope that the volcanic nature of Kethaela is apparent. The Vent and its string of little volcanoes are obvious. The Shadow Plateau was a volcano. Indeed, the entire Choralinthor might be a caldera. Veskarthan is the Orlanthi name for the source of all that acivity.
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Greg Stafford
Game Designer
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