> As a long time lurker, and first time poster
> I have decided to jump in with both feet and risk
> A vicious Gregging by throwing forth my own personal
> theory of how a "half troll, half human" tribe might
> have come to exist in glorantha.
You're welcome.
> Having spent some time to ponder the awful
I agree with this statement, but a recent discovery in one off the myths in KoS makes me feel less sure about the actual course of events you give below.
> (I have written a hymn relating the event, and will be happy to
> post it if ensuing discussions indicate it is likely to exist).
Post it, if no objections come, else mail it to those who're interested (like me).
> My thesis is : During the lesser Dark KL and Orlanth came to
> blows over one thing or another. neither could defeat the other.
There was this issue where KL's slippers went missing, and Gore's legs were broken by the thief when he and his twin brother Gash tried to stop the intruder. Orlanth knows the spell of Darkwalk...
When the trolls had entered the surface world, those led by Argan Argar settled in the neighbourhood of Vingkot's kingdom (Third Age Heortland plus Dragon Pass), and likely came to blows with the Vingkotlings.
The first recorded cooperation between trolls and Orlanthi humans against other Orlanthi humans is in King of Sartar, in "Orlanth the Justice-bringer" (p.74). Harand Boardick, IMO of the earth-worshipping Orlanthi, challenged Jarani Whitetop, great-grandson of Vingkot, and assaulted his stead with the help of trolls led by Jogo Zaramzil, called "Night-in-day", an epithet reminding of Argan Argar. In exchange for this service, Harand had given his son to the troll lord. Maybe this (unnamed) foster or hostage son was the founder of the first human clan of the Kitori?
> Seeing that this conflict could go on indefinately, (and respecting
> the other's prowess) they decided it was in their best intrests to
> get hitched, so they could commence to ignoring each other like all
> good married couples.
[possible motives of the patron deities deleted, which might well be part of Kitori folk lore, likely in a somewhat more respectful form]
I think the actual marriage was performed by avatars of the deities, which in Godtime comes quite near to the actual thing, IMO.
> Food For Thought -- hope it helps.
An interesting line of thought. Since the Kitori border on my
chosen area of Glorantha, I'm always interestd in opinions on
this strange tribe.
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- -- Joerg Baumgartner joe_at_sartar.toppoint.de
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