Elmal and Hill of Gold recriminations

From: David Cake <davidc_at_cs.uwa.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 13:54:05 +0800

        OK, so Greg may not have mentioned the Hill of Gold in connection with Zorak Zoran at RQ Con.

  1. I'm sticking by my guns anyway - if Elmal fought Zorak Zoran, I think he did it at the Hill of Gold until gregged or otherwise convinced otherwise.
  2. I'm not the only one who misremembered - Dave Dunham mentions it on his RQ Con DU report on his web page.

Other Yelmalio bickering
>According to the Broken Council Guidebook, *Elmal(us)* is the ancient
>human cult of South Peloria.

        And mentioned several times in GRoY as well. I think this is reasonably established. Originally worshipped by the Vingkotlings, I think (mentioned in both GRoY and KOS as Elmalus and Elmal respectively).

        I think both of these are more authoritative about these sort of details than Broken Council guidebook, which is a non-Gloranthan document i.e. written from a more distant point of view, so may have some implicit translation done there on things like names.

> Hurril is something you made up and wrote
>about in Codex #3. Yelmalio is said in Genertela Book to have made his
>last stand at Winterwood and this is confirmed by the Broken Council
>Guidebook.

        OTOH Yelmalio does sound terribly derivative of Yelm, and so it sounds a bit unlikely that the name is entirely unconnected. If there was an elvish cult of the cold sun at Winterwood in the dawn ages, it is probably unconnected to the Yelm cult of Dara Happa (who generally where not elf fans), so it seems unlikely it used the name Yelmalio. If it wasn't called Yelmalio, we might as well assume it was called Hurril in the abscence of evidence to the contrary. Which is not to say that the modern Yelmalio cult might be strongly connected to the original elvish cult, and perhaps closer to it than to the Elmal cult (unlikely given most theories of origins of the Yelmalio cult have Monrogh as originally an Elmali).

        Anyway, if Elmal doesn't have a Hill of Gold myth, where did the modern Yelmalio myth come from? Almost certainly not from the elves, and do we want to try and fit Antirius into this mess of myths? Maybe they got it from the Khelmal cult, which combines myths from Elmal and Antirius, and so has a Hill of Gold myth?

        Cheers

                David



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