More Harrek

From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph_at_voyager.co.nz>
Date: Sat, 06 Feb 1999 13:24:16 +1300


Joerg Baumgartner:

>>>The picture clearly depicts one of the Hero Wars battles in Dragon Pass
>>>- - it is easy to make out the shaven-head Lunars, snake-headed dragonewt
>>>priests etc in late 70s pictography for Glorantha.

>>And this makes the text wrong in what respect?

>At least the text is attributed to the wrong picture.

It is? So when Gods of Glorantha uses the same picture twice and claims that it is a) Godunya with men who are dragons, and b) a priest to him with Immanent Mastery types as guards, only one of the facts can be true because the text is wrongly attributed in one case? This is an astonishingly feeble reason to dismiss published facts.

If Greg (or Sandy) wanted a picture of Harrek the Berserk sacking the Rightarm Isles for the genertela box and had to reuse the old picture due to time constraints, then I see no reason why the reuse of the old picture should necessarily negate their statement that Harrek sacked the Rightarm Isles in 1616.

>It might attribute the
>wrong people to the event mentioned. Which temple in the Rightarm Isles do
>you think is depicted here?

Any temple.

>>[Harrek] He only commanded one ship in 1616 AFAIK.

>The ship Harrek took over when it attacked the one he had taken from Sog
>City to Seshnela (article in Tales #10)? That makes already two ships,
>and a likely stop at Ginorth to recruit more.

This presumes that Harrek's first ship was a warship, which is not necessarily so. And Tales then says he went onto Threesteps, not Ginorth.

>Harrek's plundering of
>Sog City takes place sometime in 1615. We know from Esrolia 1624 and
>Boldhome 1630 that Harrek enjoys a prolonged drunk after a successful
>plunder, so he may have left Fronela only late in 1615, or even early in
>1616. Given the sailing condition in Dark and Storm Season (Missing Lands
>p.98f), and Harrek's lack of nautical experience - and likely also lack of
>trust - I find Sea Season 1616 most likely.

OTOH if Loskalm marched to the aid of Sog City as soon it was sacked, a not improbable occurence, then Harrek's stay in Sog City would be greatly shortened. A Loskalmi army on the march would easily explain why Harrek has to leave Sog City in a single boat in a strange direction. Thus he could have left in early 1615, such as fire season.

Thus IMHO there is no manifest improbability in Harrek being in the Rightarm Isles in Sea Season 1616.

>Wolf Pirates raid his ship, he slays dozens of them.

>Wolf Pirates see his potential as leader, bring him to Ygg's Isles.

Harrek went to Threesteps after joining the wolf pirates according to ToTRM#10.

>My only omission is the legend of that White Bear & Red Moon cover in
>Glorantha Book, for the reasons above. Peter's version has the advantage of
>covering that event, mine has the advantage of simplicity.

And given that this simplicity denies a well-attested fact in two sources for no good reason, one may wonder why this simplicity is advantageous.

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