On the people of bunged Feroda:
Peter:
Where could they escape to? Pavis isn't even built when Feroda
was bunged and Paragua and Waha control Robcradle.
Me:
The River of cradles valley still has a population of oasis folk farmers, the
Port of Sog is not destroyed. They could escape to the sea, where Giants and
nomads are unlikely to chase them.
Peter:
So how was New Pavis founded in your glorantha?
Me:
Pavis, the Faceless Statue, a few companions and minor allies, and at least a
large clan of Pure Horse people come an defeat the animal nomads, Waha, and
the Giants
in the Too Tall Battle. [magical interlude - Faceless Statue commits Utuma to
integrate it with the entanglements of the universe] Pavis instructs dwarf
masons to build most of the city, in return for Organstones, while Joraz and
people, and their herds graze in the flat pastures within the walls.[magical
interlude - Pavis, usin Dragon Magic- manifests his Dream of a city]. Waha ,
at the Paps is injured and the EWF send a force to do him some more harm (but
also, IMO/IMG, to try to make Pavis an Imperial Wyrms Mind City). Pavis uses
a bit of diplomacy and helps heal Waha, (and helps keep his city independant
of the Wyrms Mind Collective). Meanwhile Joraz, also seeking a peaceful
settlement, gets his herds un-tabooed by making them zebra. Pavis and
interested students study draconic mysticism whilst Joraz effectively runs
the city, treating the urban city folk in a similar manner to Grazeland
vendref (similar but not so master/servant), including buying of slaves from
Morokanth, from the Jrusteli, and from anyone else with an interest in
selling slaves for magical artefacts.
Most non Pure Horse settlers are wannabe-mystics come to study with Pavis, agricultural slaves bought by the Zebra/Pure Horse, or Jrusteli adventurers seeking Cradle Loot, until the time of Thog and the land grant to Arinsor Clearmind. (these wannabe mystic include wannabe masons who seek transcendance through masonry, or something like that, can't imagine a similar thing in the real world)
Peter:
>> Pavis has made friends with Waha and sworn oaths.
Me:
>Pavis made a deal, not friends, with Waha. Alliances are always
>temporary in Prax.
Peter:
The oaths are still re-enacted today according to the Pavis
cult writeup. Pavis remains in existance because of these
oaths.
Me:
So the destruction of the city by Jaldon was a part of the deal? So the
constant raiding until the Troll Occupation was in the small print?
>> Pavis was not part of the God
>> Learner Empire and so the Ralians would have been sent to
>> places like Jrustela or Umathela.
But it did have an entire suburb, Oldtown, devoted to Jrusteli Immigrants. (as well as an entire suburb devoted to Zebra people). Which entire suburb was devoted to this mass of Theyalan craftsmen?
Peter
But no mention of slave trade from the sea. So the farmers
came from Dragon Pass, no?
Me:
There is no specific mention of the Pavis road, but you seem to think that is
the only alternative.
Peter:
So was the City friendly to the nomads or not in the Imperial Age?
I think this is a stupid question. It was obviously not friendly when there was a siege going on, nor was it friendly when the Too Tall battle was happening, but it could have been friendly, at least enough to trade, temporarily, on and off, soem tribes less hostiel tha others, etc etc.
Keith N
End of The Glorantha Digest V7 #175
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