Re: The Glorantha Digest V7 #300

From: Bob Stancliff <stanclif_at_ufl.edu>
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 10:29:16 -0500


> Subject: John Milius' Conan
> Lately I re-watched John Milius' Conan, the one movie that I consider
the
> best heroic fantasy one of the XX century.

        I agree that this is the best fantasy adventure movie made, closely followed by The Wizard of Oz, Willow, Princess Bride, and Legend. My roommate also likes Krull, and I think that the second Conan movie was OK too.

> Cimmerians are a perfect... Orlanthi/Lodril/Humakti/Ernalda
> culture, IMO

        Crom is a fine version of Humakt. Normally rather distant, but interested in valor and combat.

> Nomads are similar to Pentans

        Think of Air worshipping Bison Riders, but on horses, or just wind worshipping Pentans.

> whereas the civilized guys (Zamora) are akin to a semi
> civilized Gloranthan culture, such as Tarsh or Balazar
> (with cities ruled by barbarian adventurers).

        Not really. This was a civilized culture with sorcery and theism. The primitives are foreigners. You can compare Zamora to many of the Lunar Provincial regions.

> Thulsa Doom, IMOHO, is a Henotheist sorcere, someone
> like the Arkati or the Seshnelan Serpent Kings.

        He was apparently the warrior/priest of a (Stygian?) Snake Cult, but eventually became a mystic and made himself a demi-god to gain more power through direct worship. It is safe to speculate that he became the avatar of his snake god, and represented him in the world. In Glorantha this would make him a (Super)Hero.

> What are his retainers? Doom's personal bodyguard is more
> difficult to name. They enjoy slavery (no Orlanthi attitude)...

        They are most likely elite warriors of the same snake cult. The two lieutenants eventually become priests and leaders of many followers.

> Could they be Arkati humans, or even Zorak Zorani,
> I wonder? Even Thulsa Doom's Standard, two
> serpents at the sides of a black orb, reminds me of
> the Darkness Rune with Beast/Spirit

        If you must place them directly into Glorantha, put them on the border between the Kingdom of Ignorance and Pent. Conan is a tribesman from the hills, Subatai is a wind worshipping Pentan, Thulsa and his followers worship Dark Sun, Bloody Sun, and a Snake god. Zamora becomes the capital of a province in Kingdom of Ignorance. It isn't a perfect fit, but it could work.
Stancliff


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