Trotsky says:
> Galgarenge is the Dara Happan goddess of griffins. She gets a
> mention in
> Anaxial's Roster (pp 24-25) and also in GRoY. Griffins, as we know, like
> to eat horses...
Thanks! So, is she still sleeping somewhere in Peloria?
Peter Metcalfe says:
> Because Maize is no ordinary grain but the gift of the Blood Sun.
> It grows best in the rains of blood which fall only when the Blood
> Sun shines (and have not been seen for some millennia). In the
> light of the Quiet Sun, maize still requires blood to grow.
Wow! This is great! Gloranthan biology! The Blood Sun has been "shut down" since the Mandarins seized the country after they were driven north by the Godlearners, right? Or has something else happened to it?
> Ah, but due to the bounty of maize, the Lunars are able to feed
> more expendable people than they could before. Thus they have
> more to sacrifice.
That's.... um, an interesting economic model. Makes one wonder what 19th century robber barons would be like in Glorantha. "I sold my soul to the company store," indeed.
> The metal is iron. The actual secret is how the Loskalmi got
> hold of the iron despite the Ban. IMO it's some sort of dark
> satanic mill that uses some morally disturbing process to make
> the required iron.
Is that disturbing to the Loskalmi or disturbing to all right-thinking individuals? Another thing I like about Glorantha; all the cultures have their dirty little (and not-so-little) secrets.
Joerg Baumgartner says:
> That's 20 years after Grizzly Peak, ample time to reach this influence.
> She worked with Penraltan the Gold, who succeeded Sartar-friendly
> Jardanreal (who had allied with Tarkalor).
Well, yes, but I don't expect that Tarkalor's Queen was still alive 10 years after Grizzly Peak, especially since at least one source has her die there (assuming the "queen" that died was the FHQ and not some other wife....).
> I suppose that Moirades became King of Dragon Pass sometime around
> 1605.
That's a lot of work for 5 years of value. (Of course, who knows when they are going to die?)
>which IMO is one of the benefits of being KoDP: you can ally
> with the 'newts. Try without this authority, and have your emissaries eaten...
Aha! A benefit to being KoDP!
> How so? The Grazers have the best deal, ever since Sartar they are
> guaranteed participation in that rite. Unlike the male parties, who
> usually hail from Sartar, Tarsh and the Holy Country.
The Earth-aspects of Grazer culture get to take part; can the male/solar rulers make a bid for KoDP?
> IMO there definitely are two children of Moirades living among the
> Grazers. I wonder whether they survived Jandetin's rise to power,
> though
There's no reason that I know of why there shouldn't be two setss of kids; lots of obscure claims to the Tarsh throne can only be good for game plots. Unless Mr. Stafford wants to make a statement....
> IMO both Lunar children of Moirades received an education in the
> Empire.
I'd be surprised if they didn't have Lunar tutors, at the very least.
> Pharandros is more friendly with the imperial tendencies of the
> Phargantites than with the provincial tendencies of the Fazzurites. IMO
> he wants to be Satrap of Tarsh and Dragon Pass, and regain control over
> the lands his grandfather Phargentes ruled, i.e. the rest of the provinces.
This may be what Moirades is doing after he retires from the throne of Tarsh (if he does fully; he could maintain the sacral duties off-stage while his son rules). He's trying to lunarize the KoDP to pave the way for his family to become Satraps of the region.
Greg Stafford says:
> SS had already taken care of this by slaughtering the griffin
> population.
How cruel of him.... Even though they're Solar, I suppose Pentans can't be expected to honor griffins, can they?
> >Does Hon-eel link herself to Maran Gor or to Ernalda
> >(presumably via the Temple on Kodros Isle(?) noted in
> >KoS). I had always assumed the latter.
> No.
Um, "no, she didn't link to Maran Gor," or "no, she didn't link to Ernalda?" Who did she impress? (I realize "link" is probably the wrong word here, but HonEel proved herslf related to some Earth goddess, right?)
> I want to take a moment and point out something critical that often
> seems
> to displease people: logic has nothing to do with it. Just because the
> other grain goddesses appear to be worshipped one way does not mean
> that they are all worshipped the same way, or even in a similar way.
I'm not displeased, but I am a little puzzled. If there isn't some "godly standard," wouldn't god(desse)s willing to do the job more "cheaply" win out in the sacred free market? I'm only partly joking here; I realize that there are a lot of factors: custom, divine descent, local magical conditions, morals and ideals of the worshippers, etc., but if one goddess will feed the tribe with the sacrifice of some grain and cows, while another wants, say 50 youths and maidens, why would the worship of the second god prosper? Even if the people were unwilling to give up their rites, they won't be competative as a tribe. It seems to me that gods who destroy/demand to much from their worship base will handicap their worshippers so much that their worship will tend to fade away. Or am I missing some crucial detail?
Peter Larsen
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