About the Red Moon and her movements - I wrote thusly:
> > I've thought about this as well, but then I remembered hearing that the
>Red
> > Moon probably stays the same height everywhere in Glorantha, except
>within
> > the Glowline. I think this is in print somewhere, or maybe it has been
> > discussed here on the Digest. Don't know what I prefer though, but since
> > the RM is kind of "in-between" the Inner Plane and the Godplane, I think
>it
> > makes sense and becomes a lot creepier if it stays the same height.
And some replies:
Ben Waggoner:
> Interesting. So does the Red Moon visibly move in the sky as one
>crosses the glowline? Or is at incremental effect over some distance as
>one
>approaches it?
IMO, it starts to "rise" when you enter the Glowline, and is at its top height over Glamour.
Alex Ferguson:
>That's my understanding also. The RM isn't *quite* in the sky world,
>but is very nearly so, and even more so (in some sense I shall make
>imprecise...) in the Glowline. So it doesn't look like it's at any
>finite, sensible height above the lozenge, but it doesn't *quite*
>look like a normal sky object either. (Even above it being non-rotating,
>non-tilting, and non-rise-and-setting...)
I heartily agree with the above. A heretical thought: if the Empire succeeds in killing Orlanth, would this mean the Red Moon would become more of a Middle Air object, and so would seem to "be" more in the world than it seems now?
Julian Lord in response to Alex:
> > No; though the truth may be odder still. ;-) My current understanding
> > (thinking, or assumption, as the case may be) is that: a) the red moon
> > is always in the apparent direction of Glamour;
>
>The Crater surely ? (quibble, quibble, toil and tribble as at least one
>cross-posting openherowarser might put it)
Well, Glamour and the Crater *are* next to each other... Anyway, I think it
would "center" upon the Temple of the Reaching Moon in Glamour.
>
> > b) it doesn't have a
> > "physical height", at least inside of the Glowline; rather, it appears
> > in effect to be "in" the Sky;
>
>But this might not prevent it from having an "apparent" height ?
Why would it be prevented? It looks like it's hanging in the sky, which gives the illusion of height.
> > and c), the Glowline itself effects
> > what _part of_ the sky the moon is seen in (and possibly even whether
> > it's part of the Sky, or part of the Middle Air).
>
>hmmm ... sounds pretty weird. If true, does this mean that the RM over
>Sartar
>(sorry couldn't resist the pith) "apparently" acts like a yo-yo during the
>Dragonrise ?
Why not? During the Dragonrise, reality-as-Heortlings-know-it becomes a bit elastic, and I would definitely bring in some description of the Moon moving in the sky at this point.
Jerome Blondel:
>I was thinking horizontally :-) In the western seas the moon is east of
>Kalikos (north star), and vice-versa, but as you get closer to some "red
>moon meridian", the moon gets closer to Kalikos (assuming it's in the same
>direction as the Crater).
Ah, I assumed you were talking about the height. Must try to remember to think in 3 dimensions, not just one... ;) I think you're right about this, and it also seems to fit with the 'Roving Searchlight' theory about the phases of the moon.
Signing off for now,
Erik Nolander
End of The Glorantha Digest V8 #452
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