>Well the discussion that Wulf and I are trying to have is as described
>above.
Sorry, Graham, but although this was part of my line of thought, my
focus is now on
a) is the Shamanic Circle and spirits within it considered mundane
(spirits summoned by the Shaman from his Traditions suffer the Alien
World -20) or Spirit World (they don't)
b) Do spirits bound into fetishes, or otherwise embodied, suffer the
Alien World -20 WHILE IN THE MUNDANE WORLD (emphasis to avoid previous
confusion)
Wulf
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