Greg:
>Pester to switch?
>Please remember that the rules state that the list of given Feats are
>sample, and that players and narrators ought to work out hat Feats they
>find best suitable for their campaign.
I know that, and you know that. Now tell all the lazy narrators out
there. ;-)
Seriously though, going with something other than the default is always a
non-trivial task.
People need convincing, and that's all I'm trying to do here...
Jeff:
>Vangath's initiates will just have a Flight Affinity (and the other
>two). Only DEVOTEES get Feats.
Yeah, I know. Slip of the keyboard. I also shouldn't have said that _affinities_ are redundant when what I'm actually talking about is particular _feats_.
>All those things I am doing while flying I can enhance with moblity to
>fly faster or dodge opponents or whatever.
As stated by Wulf, not unless you bend the rules some.
>>How is jumping over rocks or running over mud or up cliffs
>>any
>> different from flying over or up said rocks, mud or cliffs?
>
>Because flying has a resistance number for some of these things.
And running doesn't? Or are you assuming that flying NOE is more difficult than at high altitudes? Why?
>When I see a flyer, I tend to try to pick them off first.
Sure, but a good flyer is better at dodging in the air than on the ground anyway, so it evens out.
>Movemnt
>can be used on other people with little problem.
Hadn't thought about that. You've got a point there.
>Sunset Leap and Leap over Tree are pretty much 'all or
>nouthing' feats that happen over the course of an action. Flying may
>take longer or have a higher resistance.
Sunset Leap I'll grant you. I'm inclined to get rid of that for other reasons, but YGMV. But I'm still not convinced that taking a short flight to reach the top of a cliff or skim across a pond, for example, takes more than an action, is a more difficult form of magic than any other, or leaves the magician more vulnerable.
So: the only convincing argument out of the bunch is the "use on others" one. However, that alone is actually useful enough to make me reconsider discarding these feats...
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