Re: Disciple Questions

From: Roderick and Ellen Robertson <rjremr_at_...>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 17:08:19 -0700


> Wind Lords are required to lose all magic gained from _membership_ in
> other Orlanth Aspects at this point. I assume that a Storm Lord is as
> well. Disciples in general may not _use_ magic from another god, not
> even other aspects. How does this affect magic gained through
> _heroquesting_ rather than _membership_. Frex, Gudny gained the Howl
> of Terror feat from the Gorangi Vak quest and Dragonslaying magic on
> an Alakoring heroquest. Neither ability is associated with a god.
> The dragon magic is from an Orlanthi hero. IMO, the Howl is out, it
> is NOT orlanth. I don't know about the dragonslaying though.
> Daylanus the Conquering Wind is Thunderous and there is nothing saying
> that dragon's weren't a foe that he defeated. Heck, Daylanus probably
> gave Orlanth the Klanth.

I think he should get to keep both of them. Part of Orlanth's MO is to acquire "stuff" from other people. Winning HQ challenges is following the lead of Old Windy. (Granted, O. Adventurous is the one with the thieving powers, but Daylanus stole weapons, and Yavor was made into spears). So non-Stormy powers won in a HQ challenge are fair game.

> Wind Lords have ritual greetings they must use when encountering
> certain people or things. ST says that Storm Lords do but that they
> are different. Can anybody suggest some?
>
> Any suggestions or comments?

Should strive to keep the cloud stormy, so contests with Solar types would probably be Call/Clear Cloud ones.

Should challenge Priests of other Elements or of other weapons (not Humakt, though, H. is a member of the Storm tribe now...) to contests, winner keeps weapons (in the mundane world, anyway, HQ Challenges would see the entire "Sword Fighting" ability wagered vrs "Spear Combat".)

> I think that the SL's divine companion would be an Urothrorol or an
> awakened spear(?)

More likely an Umbroli than a Storm Ram - those are more associated with Heler (at least in my mind). A Spear, Tattoo, Bag o' Winds, Horse-that-can-ride-on-the-wind, Alynx (Yinkin is friend to Storm)...

> I also think that a SL should disdain buildings and spend a lot of
> time skyclad.

Definitely. See Elmalandti Bluespruce (TR 206) for a Thunderous Disciple.

> Finally, how do people see the final transformation taking place? I
> am thinking that the applicant takes himself to Orlanth's Hall and
> undergoes come test or tests. Theoretically, if you have the
> requirements (warband support, know your secret, etc etc) you should
> not have any difficulty passing. But what do people think that those
> tests are? Or, does the applicant know when they are ready, hold a
> ceremony with their supporters, pass onto the gods plane and return
> full of Orlanth's immanence?

I think that the Orlanthi are "show me" types, - Big O won't just take your word for it, he wants to see it for himself. (cf Vinga & the Thunder Bros). So tests against the "Thunderous" TBs are probably in order. Having a Unique Ability (Howl of Terror?) probably counts as a "pretty good chance of passing" - "I can't sling like Hedkoranth there, nor blow like Ohorlanth, but I can [[**ROAR**]] scare ya real good".

> Do people know when they are looking at a disciple? Does a disciple
> have a more powerful presence than a devotee? I don't think so. I
> think that you would need to recognise a disciple from his actions.

Here I disagree - his powers should be "always on", infused by the power of Storm itself. There are probably *always* winds blowing his hair and everything close to him, a thundercloud above his head when he's angry, fluffy white clouds when he's happy.... A powered-up guy will be seen to be powered-up, and a Disciple is pretty much powered up all the time. I think Greg called it the Heroquest Light?

This is like the "Humakti that causes flowers to wilt and cows milk to curdle when he walks by" type of character. At this point, you are the nearest thing to a (demi-)god that a man can be. Starnge things (related to your Discipleship) should happen whether you want them to or not.

Imagine a Thunderous Disciple walking into a citified Lankhor Mhy's study....

RR

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