Re: Re: Uz society

From: DreadDomain <dreaddomain_at_...>
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:45:40 -0500

>I find it hard to see how they could do this. Males play little to no
>role in raising Uz children, and all the magic required to birth
>children (and there's a lot of it) is feminine magic. This means they
>must have significant freedom and magical power even in societies
>that are dominated by males.

I agree with that. I was not talking about slave-females even in a ZZ society. They must keep significant influences on family matters.

>Perhaps I should clarify what I mean by social dominance. I'm talking
>about who controlls strategic decision making such as where we will
>live, who we will fight or trade with, how resources will be
>distributed. Even when males are in overall controll of these
>matters, the females will still exert significant influence, even
>controll, over matters related to family life and reproduction. Troll
>instinct, psychology, biology and magic require this.

Oh. We pretty much agree then.

>I don't think you can meaningfuly extrapolate troll behaviour from
>human behaviour. Remember that troll behaviour is largely instinctive
>and therefore invariable compared to human culture.

I must invalidate my own example and agree with you.

>I wouldn't go this far. The Shadow Empire was ruled by male trolls
>for hundreds (even thousands?) of years and they were still trolls at
>the end of it. Just because the males are in power doesn't mean the
>females are bereft of influence or magic. In fact in situations like
>that I'd expect that power would actualy be split between power over
>external and internal affairs, with females playing at least a
>prominent role in the latter.

Then I was disagreeing with you for no reason since you sum up here what I think

To make my thought clearer :

KL society
Internal : Female dominated
External : Female prominent

AA Society
Internal : Female dominated
External : Male dominated

ZZ Society
Internal : Female prominent
External : Male dominated

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