HQ to prove identity or not of entities

From: Jane Williams <janewilliams20_at_...>
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:43:18 +0100


> > > What heroquests have there been to prove Yelmalio
> > > is Elmal and vice-versa?
>
> >You seriously think these things have detailed
> >documentation (that any of the participants will admit
> >to)? Monrogh.
>
> He wasn't heroquesting to prove anything of the sort
> but to find a way out of the strife between conservative
> Orlanthi and Yelmizing Elmali.

Really? KoS: "Monrogh is the one who traveled to the sun god to find the truth which was needed. He traversed the worlds, and met with the elf lords and the wandering souls who had still been seeking the vision. They were assembled as the Witnesses, who have brought their magics to the cult. Monrogh did not know the name of the god for whom he searched, but when he returned to this world he brought back Yelmalio. This deity was already known among the elves, and was said to be the wounded body of the sun limping across the sky (perhaps even the immortal part, since it was not in the underworld with the Emperor.) He recited the List of Visionaries, whose works had prepared the way for the liberation of Yelmalio among humans. The success of Monrogh at attaining the truth attracted the rest of the Elmal worshipers who wanted to join the new sun religion. They were the first converts."

He HQed to find Yelmalio, and thus "proved" that he was not the same as Elmal (or Yelm). Quite successfully, it seems. Sure, it found a way out of strife, but that was how he did it.

> >Everyone and their alynx in the Far Place.
>
> Again they did nothing of the sort.

John Hughes would appear to disagree with you, and he's done more work there than anyone else.

> > Assorted other Yelmalio confusions in Sun
> >County (the real one, not the Sartar imitation).
>
> Nobody heroquested to prove that Yelmalio was
> Elmal there. Since its foundation, they've always
> worshipped Yelmalio.

Ha. Ha. Very funny. Come off it Peter, you *wrote* some of the history in which they worshipped Somash, and helped with the bit where they worshipped Sun Dragon. Not to mention the odd few centuries where they were ruled by nomads, and all the Cold Sun arguments. But naturally, any priest there now will tell you they've "always" worshipped Yelmalio - of course he will! He's done a HQ to prove it, and if he's convinced you, it must have been quite successful, too.

> The Praxian Yelmalio is a spirit called Sun Hawk.
> Nobody has heroquested to prove that Sun Hawk
> and Yelmalio are the one and the same.

Nobody? Ever? How do you imagine you're going to prove that?

> The
> Aldryami Halamalao is Yelmalio but only Elf-Friends
> actually care about this.

And that makes it less relevant because?

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