Re: Orlanthi - Ralians, Talastari, oh my

From: David Dunham <david_at_...>
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 22:28:44 -0700


Jeff

>I've always been uncertain when the storm worshippers arrived in
>Umathela. I assumed they were a First Age group - but I could
>certainly be wrong. If they came from Genertela in the First Age,
>they probably did learn how to worship the storm gods from the
>Heortlings.

Presumably at least one of the first ten groups (which did get transported in the Dawn Age) were storm worshippers. I'm guessing that they left after the missionaries had spread.

However, the original sample was fairly small (10 groups of 10 according to Revealed Mythologies), so one could plausibly argue that they all came from dissident groups who'd rejected the Heortling Way. If that meets your story needs.

Peter

>That the Umathings are Orlanthi is a matter of canon and I
>doubt that they had ever lost it considering that Worlath was
>a god specifically stated to have been worshipped in
>Umathela. When the Protestants junked the Pope, they
>didn't throw out the Bible.

What we're discussing is the amount of possible variation among Orlanth-worshippers. Given God Learner activity, I think it would be hard to find a deity *not* worshipped in Umathela in the Imperial Age.

The Umathings aren't literate, so I'd consider their practices a little more fluid. And I'm not entirely sure that every Christian group used the Bible; they certainly don't all use the same Bible. Christians have had some amazing variation. Here's a favorite passage:

"George Eder's Evangelical Inqisition of 1573 enumerates forty sects; they included the Munzerites, the Adamists, who ran naked, the secretive Garden Brethren, the Open Witnesses, the Devillers (who believed the Devil would be saved on Judgment Day), the Libertines, who cohabited freely, the Weeping Brethren, the Silent Ones, who banned preaching, the Augustinians, who believed in the sleep of the soul, various Munsterites, Paulinists, who claimed to have the originals of Paul's Epistles, priest-murderers, Antichristians, who worshipped a mythical harlot, and Judaizers. Some were violently anti-social, some not even Christian. Virtually all states banned and hounded them all. Poland was the most liberal." [A History of Christianity, Paul Johnson, p.293]

>in my opinion, the God Learners would have
>encouraged the Orlanthi to worship Orlanth animistically
>and sorcerously in addition to theistic worship.

No doubt.

-- 

David Dunham
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