> As in the case of Harrek and the Red Emperor, you didn't look hard
> enough.
Going through the repetitions was hard enough.
> Me: >Instead an elf would view a forest fire
> : >as a natural calamity such as humans would view a plague or
> : >a drought.
> DD::I submit that this is a humanocentric viewpoint. If you require
> ::fire and/or smoke for your children to be born, fire is not a curse.
Accurately speaking for certain species of trees (and associated aldryami), never for a forest as a whole.
Basically, if your species requires the death (by fire) of the parent generation for the next generation to be born, then the means of that death is not a curse.
If your species even has a chance to survive that fire, it is even less of a curse.
How would intelligent salmon view their life cycle?
>>Nobody claimed that burning down an entire forest is required for >>fertility.
> Okay. So why should the Vralos elves as a whole tolerate fire then?
Why should they tolerate metal use, storm worship, lumberjacks, or forest pasture?
>>It was suggested that humans practicing a forest-related agriculture >>would be a good first defense line or at least a good buffer versus >>Fonritian aggression towards the thick aldryami forest.
> Except that the Fonritans regularly burn down forests so that
In toto. Nothing remaining. Optionally salting the ground?
> burning down your own stretch of the woods is rather a self-
> defeating concept. Kind of like "we burned that forest to
> save it".
If they did burn it as a whole, you would be right.
>>Personally, I see more potential in some species of aldryami being >>reasonable about limited use of fire while others taking Peter's stance.
> Except that the reasonable limited use of fire that gets suggested
> happens to be widespread burning
Peter, please do read what people are writing.
There is a difference between clearing a field (or garden plot) by the square meter and clearing a forest by tens of square kilometers.
As a possible alternative I'd suggest something like Terra Preta des Indios of the Amazonas bowl for Umathela, also known as "slash and char". Too interesting not to be used. (Otherwise, this might be found in Elamle.)
> which is IMO like suggesting reasonable limited:
> - use of the Crimson Bat
> - hiring broos
> - kinstrife
> - slaughter of innocents
Your misreading of my statment is. Let's add propitiatory worship (sacrificing wealth to evil or hostile entities), magical curses...
Some cultures have set their own limits of acceptability. Like Fonritians viewing enslavement as good, Yelmies encouraging stasis, or Orlanthi promoting trial and Error.
What sane person would allow their arms and legs to be amputated, even with a promise of regrowth? Go visit Bayahote...
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