- What can anyone tell us about the undead cults of Peloria and Ralios?
- Is "Vivamort" therefore a Godlearner construct, (mis-?)describing a universal god of Undeath?
- If Nontraya is an 'undead deity', is Nontraya's cult like the theistic Vivamort cult described in Cults of Terror or is it a sorcerous cult, more like the later write-ups of Vivamort in e.g. Lords of Terror?
- In the Second Age wasn't there a sorcerous cult (the name of which escapes me), which successfully replicated much of the magic of Gark for its own ends, which is written up (briefly) in one of the MRQ Cults books?
Maybe with a bit of YGWV this cult would have the potential to be the 'main villain' in this campaign? Indeed maybe it was only the actions of your campaign's player-characters in the Second Age which prevented this cult from becoming a Big Bad?
- Can one infer from Peter's comments on Nontraya that, canonically, Pamaltela has no native vampires? (Unless perhaps they have travelled/been imported from Genertela)
- Can one infer from Peter's comments that Delecti and his vampiric acolytes (The Daughters/Dancers of Darkness?) are untainted by Chaos?
On an almost unconnected note, have Spolite heresies ever involved the creation of undead? In my Glorantha I have wondered about a Spolite heresy serving as a basis for vampirism within the Lunar Empire, and possibly even as a supply of (occasional) vampires into the service of that Empire? (It wouldn't take that much to imagine that the Taloned Countess was one, for example)
Though IMG the Legion of the Undying Moon was the secretive but official organisation for vampires in the Empire. It was an obscure sub-cult of Danfive Xaron (using the unofficial write-up in Tales of the Reaching Moon as a base), made up of vampires who were converted to the Lunar way and fanatical Danfive Xaron cultists (often Black Army/Black Watch veterans), who had prolonged their 'lives' in the service of cult and Empire by choosing undeath. But then most of my players also liked Vampire the Masquerade a lot ...
Richard Hayes
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Subject: Re: My Second-Age Umathelan Game - Adventure Ideas?
On 10/27/2011 3:03 AM, giannieanna wrote:
> But I was also looking for smething creepier... In the absence of more 'traditional' foes such as Chaos or Sun/Moon worshippers, would Nontraya (http://glorantha.wikia.com/wiki/Nontraya) fill the role of the big baddie corrupting Umathing society?
Nontraya (IMO it should be noted, so if you really want to, you can) is
an undead deity really only found in Dragon Pass and Kethaela. He's not
known off (but similar deities are) in Peloria and Ralios. In
Pamaltela, the Undead Deity is Gark the Calm who is corrupting but not
really a Big Bad.
Other foes are:
Aldryami: The Aldryami are portrayed as acting with one voice when it
comes to enforcing the Woodlands Judgements. IMO there's going to be a
significant minority of Aldryami who think it's better to wipe out
humans altogether and are busy unleashing plant horrors and the like.
Obeying the Woodlands Judgements provides no protection as it's not a
social contract with reciprocal duties - its enforcers have no
obligation to ensure the human's survival. Trying to thwart these
enemies without breaking the Woodlands Judgements will be a challenge.
Kalabar: the City of Evil Sorcery doesn't get nuked until 1136 ST or
earlier. Since the God Learners are gone, there's nobody around to keep
them in check. They are probably trying to expand their power and
Umathela is right next door. At first they will send secret evil
sorcerers to teach the humans magical tricks and slowly draw them into
their malign society. They will be working against the Malki mainly but
there's nothing to stop them causing trouble among the
Hendarous/Umathings. Their ultimate aim? The return of the Demon
Emperor Vovisibor?
> Are Gloranthan undead necessarily chaotic? (I am asking this because Chaos is supposed to be less strong in 2nd Age Glorantha so I am trying to avoid using Chaos)
No, they are not. The Uroxi don't see to be very noticeable in fighting
the Upland Marsh.
--Peter Metcalfe
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