Re: The origin of Ogres.

From: simon_hibbs2 <simon.hibbs_at_ZRWdCwSyz2GIEV-HTUG2TeCnrqqZSnqdpb_wbvd2rsrfEZDn7nd6Za-vv9xX3C3G>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:35:49 -0000

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> On 29 Nov 2011, at 13:42, simon_hibbs2 wrote:
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> > And I'm saying that in Glorantha, those are the same thing because in that world the act's mythic resonance is an inseparable part of the nature of the act.
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> But there are ways in which it could make a difference. I've suggested a few - some people being more susceptible than others, following different myths to commit the act with a greatly reduced chance of becoming chaotic.

Ok. I think that in the same vein that accidentally dropping a stone on your father's head is unintentional manslaughter while deliberately doing so is premeditated murder. At some level they're both still patricide though. You're still in big trouble with the gods. Peter's right on this.

> I know that cause and effect in Godtime is a bit dodgy, but the story we get is that Ragnaglar rapes Thed, then Thed becomes Goddess of Rape, then they perform the ritual which summons Chaos. This order doesn't make a lot of sense if rape is chaotic in and of itself.
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Not dodgy, distracting and meaningless. You can't construct an argument based on the temporal relationship between things that have no actual meaningful temporal relationship. That aspect of the story is just a side effect of translating the mythic facts into something more easily intelligible to mortal minds.

Simon Hibbs