Re: Lunar Magic

From: Roderick and Ellen Robertson <rjremr_at_...>
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 21:44:06 -0700

> >
> Thanks for the clarifications. I realize Lunar characters will be much
> more complete once ILH-2 comes out- it is my primary frustration with
> the otherwise excellent ILH-1. I should clarify the reasons for my
> confusion.
>
> >>1. Can you use your retained common magic as an active ability, or only
as
> >>an augment?
> >
> >Only as an augment (ie, just like "normal" common magic).
> >
> >Page 113 box: "In either case the specified magic (either a specialized
> >religion *or* common magic) gains the benefit of concentration but the
> >"retained" magic does not."
> >
> >Using common magic as an active ability is a benefit of concentration.
> >
> >
> In the section on Concentrating Magic Use (pg 108), it states:
>
> "Additionally, any common magic abilities retained can now be used as
> active abilities, not just as augmentations"
>
> This seems to indicate that retained Lunar Common magic should now be
> able to be used as active abilities, but would still cost double hero
> points to improve.

Concentration in Theism (or Animism, or Sorcery) isn't quite the same as Lunar concentration. When you concentrate in Theism, you get to "retain" any common magic listed as feats. These become active magical abilities, as noted on page 108. The Lunar Magic box specifically says that you *don't* get the benefits of concentration (which means not just the HP price break, but making them Active abilities as well) for the retained magic. This is a specific difference from the normal rules.

> >>Does it make a difference if your common magic is directly from
> >>your pantheon (IE could a Yanafal Tarnils initiate use his Seven Mothers
> >>common magic actively, or only passively?)
> >
> >No difference. You have to give up all "non-lunar magic of any source",
so
> >*all* your common magic will be "Lunar" by default (any magic listed as
> >"subject to the Lunar Cycles" is "Lunar" for these purposes).
> >
> >> <>2. Does anything change if you become a Devotee (ie do you have to
> >> then

 >> <>give up even your Lunar common magic)?


> >

> >Yes, just like a normal Devotee.
> >
> Here again page 118 states:
>
> "A hero who wishes to be a devotee must have already concentrated his
> magic use, and furthermore must abondon all magic that does not come
> from his god"
>
> If a character learned Common Magic from his god (ie a Deezola worshiper
> knowing Heal Hurt, or a Yanafal Tarnils worshiper knowing Combat
> Attack), why would he have to give it up? I recognize that the Deezola
> devotee would need to give up his Combat Attack talent, but surely his
> Heal Hurt feat comes from his god.

Ya gotta ask specific questions if you want specific answers ;-).

The devotee could keep the *one* ability given by his own god in the 7 Moms, but would have to give up the rest.

RR
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