Re: Lodrili Settlers and Sacred Time ceremonies

From: Greg Stafford <glorantha1_at_vbP3BHCOe0LJe-JehInbWQuqywYAkntLL5zZzziEqiXJhZg7YYSJy2F2VUPu8Neae>
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:19:41 -0800


YGWV On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 7:18 AM, xavierllobet <xavierllobet_at_k5O4rmQ8Ybi_Vhe2DEt1FVRoUEEqcIcAUwiz5O2eODTOwcGmGSgRVOVwIjEi6brARrBbHaeQ68KLr6Y.yahoo.invalid> wrote:

> > Lodril fought and resisted chaos. However, like all the gods, he
> succumbed
> > and went to the Underworld.
> > However, he is a god of the Underworld--the Heat Under the earth.
> So he
> > survived there. Lodril Bijiif.
>
> How did he survive?

Survive? He didn't. He died. He was in the Underworld. BUT of course, he was an Underworld god...

Did he discover then that he was Heat under the
> earth (or did he go down there willingly?)

He was heat before he went underground.

 > Lodril is the Father, he is the Farmer, he is the Shaper. He is
> also the
> > Hidden Heat, the Heat Inside, the Warmth of Life. Those are the
> powers that
> > went to sleep.
> > Officially, it was Yelm who awakened those powers. Yelm, though,
> could not
> > get by without Lodril. he awakened the Hidden Power first, the
> Power Inside.
> > From that the power came out--the Yelm Power, the Power of Above.
> > Without Lodril the power of Yelm is useless. They say Yelm was a
> servant of
> > Lodril, the worker who brought forth the fire.
>
> So Yelm comes down and the two brothers meet. Yelm rules over all,
> but in the Underworld he needs the help of his little brother. They
> kind of make a pact: Lodril awakes Yelm's Hidden power, and in turn,
> Yelm rekindles the Warmth of Life, the Heat Inside.

Which are, of course, one and the same thing... But worshipers will be concentrating on one of them, the god they worship.

> What role do the 3 fires (Mahome, Gustbran and Oakfed) play in all
> this?

The fires all went out. They were rekindled with Lodril.

> Are they known at all by Dara Happan peasants (perhaps by other
> names)?

They will have other names in Dara Happa.

> Were they begot during the Great Darkness or before that?

Before.

> Were they perhaps rekindled/rescued then by Lodril and given to his
> followers to help them survive?

Sounds good to me. :-)
See, there are variants on all these.

 > And of course,Oria is instrumental in all this, a mirror of Lodril.
> She is
> > the fireboard, the hole in which he fire stick twirls.
>
> So Oria is the Dara Happan land goddess, more or less like Ernalda in
> Sartar?

Yes, more and less than Ernalda. Oria is far more associated with the Earth that Ernalda is.

> Is she the main goddess of female peasants while Lodril is
> for males? Are these two gods married in the myths? So both Oria and
> Yelm helped Lodril regain his powers (helped him go back to the
> surface?) ?

Yes, pretty much.

-- 
Greg Stafford
Game Designer


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