Re: Do the rules determine the nature of Glorantha?

From: Roderick and Ellen Robertson <rjremr_at_...>
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:35:07 -0700

> >> 5. Now that Kero Fin and Engizi are landscape deities, are their
> >> Storm Tribe cults still relevant (now that having 140 worshippers
> >> can drop the resistance to climb Kero Fin to zero)?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > How do you figure that 140 worshippers drop the resistance to zero?
> > Giving Total Support they'd only give the climber +13. What rule(s)
> > are you using?
>
> I think he's talking about the rule where if you worship a landscape
> deity/guardian/etc., you gain powers, but the deity loses strength--the
more
> people who (e.g.) gain feats from Two-Top Hill, the lower Two-Top Hill's
> power as a guardian will be.
>
> So if X people are in the cult of Kero Fin (and getting magic powers),
Kero
> Fin's inherent powers (like "Resist Climber" or whatever) will decrease,
> because the power has been farmed out to worshippers.

Okay, having read over the relevant passages (yep, even *I* need to do that)....

First, yes, if you got 140 people to grab "Be Tall" or "Be Mountain" feats from KF you'd (by the rules) "weaken" her magical tallness.

On the other hand, she is more than *just* magically tall. She is still 7(?) miles high; covered in ice and snow and rocks that exfoliate if you put weight on them; and surrounded by shrieking winds. So now you'd only face an lower resistance, but several (hundred) times (the approach to the North Face, the Oddi Glacier, the Falling Rocks, Yinkin's Landing, Orlanth's Womb, etc). If you can survive that many contests (at, say "Ice-slick steep cliff" 10w2 to 10w3 resistance), then sure, you've done it no problem. If you had specific mountain climbing magic, then you'd only need to make those rolls against a resistance of 14 (never 0 - no resistance is ever 0). If you hadn't weakened her, those rolls would all be made against the 20w6 resistance.

On the other hand, I don't believe that the cult of KF in Storm Tribe uses the Guardian worship rules and Landscape Deity rules. I think the cult (and the Tarsh Exile version(s)) act in all ways just like any other heortling cult, and worship the Goddess, not the Landscape Deity (a tricky theological point, yes.). So you'd need people outside of the cult to worship the Landscape rather than the Goddess to achieve the effect you're looking for, which is a story, not rules, problem.

RR
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