> From: Jane Williams <janewilliams20_at_...>
>> In its broadest sense, it is a HQ.
>
> (whimper) I thought we were trying to distinguish
> ceremonies from heroquests?
Which is precisely why I said ?in the broadest sense.?
> If one is a subset of the
> other, then... then my head hurts.
Take some aspirin.
>> > Or are you using "ceremony" to mean something
>> > different from the norm?
>> No wonder you are confused. This is your renown
>> materialistic perspective once again.
>
> Oh for goodness sake... not, it is NOT *MY*
> "materialistic perspective" at all. It's the
> perspective of the society we live in, that defines
> the language we're supposedly using to communicate.
If you are wearing a dress, I will assume it is your dress. If you express an opinion, I will assume it is your opinion. If you are not expressing your opinion, you are wasting my time.
And, as other thoughtful posters have shown, your interpretation is not
even the
dominant paradigm for understanding what a ceremony is. It?s a materialistic
interpretation that is misplaced for Gloranthan interpretation.
> And in case you hadn't noticed, on the planet the rest
> of us are living on,
Irrelevant. We are talking about Glorantha. A lot of words are used in that context o mean magical things and everyone knows it, so why would this one suddenly not have a Gloranthan interpretation?
> ceremonies generally have no
> magical component at all,
This is your famous materialistic perspective once again. Get back to Glorantha and how words are used to describe it.
> If you're using some other language that
> looks a lot like English but isn't (anything that
> thinks "normal" and "magical" go together comes under
> this heading) then you need to say so, every time you
> use the phrase. Or we'll assume you're talking
> English.
If you are talking about Glorantha then you are talking about magic, whether I use English or not.
> This is the real world.
No, this is Glorantha we are discussing.
> From: "Stephen R. Marsh" <srmarsh_at_...>
thoughtfully comments
>> The thought that ceremonies exist as pageantry only is quite new, and
>> not a part of our common heritage.
to which Jane replies
> From: Jane Williams <janewilliams20_at_...>
> Sometimes. Not always. That's the point, the word
> "ceremony" does not automatically imply any sort of
> magic.
But it does in Glorantha, which is what we have been discussing.
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