>Well I appreciate your time on this list and the
>effort you put into it. I just have a hard time
>getting my head around how we all could have made such
>a collective blunder.
Who's we?
> > - be used to rewrite history (Glorantha simply
> > isn't that type of world whether you like
> > it or not)
>Now wait a second. What about all of that instruction
>to 'Stay Away from the Green Age' stuff. If you go
>back to the Green Age and change something, you end up
>making enemies for your entire tribe.
Nothing to do with Rewriting History. Glorantha is not "the Sound of Thunder" when you crush a butterfly in the Green Age and return to find the Spellings all been changed. It's more of a case of your tribe has new enemies when you return to the green age after you've crushed the butterfly but both your tribe and the new enemies are aware that they were at peace before you went to the Green Age. Ergo History is not rewritten.
> > - be used to make two distinct gods the same
> > (which again hasn't happened in glorantha
> > and when the God Learners tried it, they
> > failed).
>Sure, they failed, but it was least conceived of.
If the empire infamous for heroquesting couldn't do it (and the Goddesses they were trying to meld were two manifestations of the primal goddess), what makes you think Joe Schmoe from the Clan Hicksville could do it with two entirely unrelated gods?
> > In my knowledge of past heroquests, I cannot
> > think of a single canonical (or even near-canonical)
> > example in which people quested to change reality.
> > There have been quests to bring back the Sun, raise
> > Dragons, stop droughts, kill people, create a
> > flaming sea, create a new planet but none of these rise
> > to the level of changing reality along the lines of
> > the three statements made above.
>I guess all of these things seem like changing reality
>to us as well, so the others are not so far off. I
>mean, after all, they did create a god or two.
Creating a God is not changing reality anymore than making babies is. When I light a fire, am I changing reality? If I kill someone, have I changed reality? Making a permanent change is not the same thing as changing reality. That latter concept should be reserved for the truly mind-boggling things such as changing history and so glorantha simply isn't the world in which reality can be changed through heroquesting.
--Peter Metcalfe
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