Re: Winter Animist Practice or Tradition

From: ttrotsky2 <TTrotsky_at_...>
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:22:56 -0000

> >Well, you'll discover that the Lunars aren't really thesitic at all
when
> >ILH2 comes out...
> >
>
> Well, in our campaign they currently are. I will worry about ILH2
> when our group starts using it...

[Disclaimer: I haven't read ILH-2 yet]

Seems a reasonable attitude. YGWV, in any case, and its either that, or don't game in the Empire until the book comes out. My Lunar campaign is starting some time soon, but as only one player has yet sent me a character (and that's indisputably an animist) I still have the choice as to which version to go with. Haven't decided which way to go, yet - it'll probably depend on what my players are happiest with rules-wise.

I mean, one can always say 'some Lunars are theist, others are mixed', without that creating wild problems in your campaign, the Lunars being the all-inclusive types that they are. Indeed, there's supporting evidence for this, since the Lunar cults in HeroQuest are (mostly) theistic, and they're presumably canonical. If there's any group in Glorantha that's not going to care *how* you worship their deities, so long as you do so somehow, it's going to be the Lunars.

> >Shamans tend to make bargains with the lesser spirits of the
tradition they
> >are in - rather than getting Oakfed into your fetish, you get a
subsidiary
> >spirit. That is why they look like they are bargaining with roughly
equal
> >beings.
>
> Maybe I'm missing a book that say this stuff, but why do Shaman
> engage in estatic worship if they get their magic through bargains
> with lesser spirits?

Because the ecstatic worship is the method they use to meet and bargain with the spirits. Plus, if you worship their boss, they're more likely to help you out without putting up a fight first.

> After all, isn't one point of worship of a god
> is to get spells from them?

That's the point of sacrificial worship, yes, and to some extent, of venerational worship, too. The point of ecstatic worship of a Great Spirit, however, is to get little spirits from them (which then lets you cast spells). Think of a spirit as a type of spell, if it helps - game mechanically, that's mostly what it is.

-- 
Trotsky
Gamer and Skeptic

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