Re: The Trouble with Insravel

From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph_at_sxofeEwgjaoAnt39X8iN45TXX7KkTLdQ00QM5gXhJELrUOeHRvsS3f6Pwmrkdzl8sAn>
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:06:21 +1200


At 06:46 p.m. 27/03/2007, you wrote:

>I'm sorry. Perhaps this is my fault for not giving a reference. I
>didn't make it up. You can find the definition in many places on the
>internet.

I'm not really interested in abstract definitions that don't tell us anything about the Carmanians.

>"Wrong. Montheism means worship of one god and one god only."

>No, you are wrong.

I would tell you to learn Greek but I shall just point out the real problem with the definitions you are using - they are open to dispute and the words and debates about the definitions don't tell us anything about the Carmanians.

>"Moreover the topic is about the Carmanians, not the Zoroastrians."

>First of all, I created this thread.

So? You don't have ownership of it. The Carmanians are not Zoroastrians. They have elements in common with the Zoroastrians but when a topic gets bogged down in the finer details of Zoroastrians, it ceases to become helpful in anybody wanting to know more about the Carmanians. The point is that Real World Religions are a source of inspiration and analogy to be drawn upon, not a canonical guide that must be rigidly obeyed.

>My whole point is that it is confusing for players (and worse yet,
>authors trying to build on the design) to say the religion is monoism
>(a primal god created two emanations or lesser gods), and then try to
>turn around and say that it is dualism.

Nobody has ever said that the Carmanian religion is monism, monoism or monolism (I dunno which word is correct and frankly I can't be bothered finding out). The description of Carmanianism that has been given in numerous sources can be and has been described as dualistic. Yes, there are many definitions of dualism that don't fit but concluding from this that the Carmanians are in no way dualistic is as fruitless as trying to argue that the Soviet Union was not socialistic.

Describe the Carmanians as they look, think and act is all that I'm saying. Forget about trying to obtain clarity in definitions or achieve orthodoxy through wikipedia citations. Neither of those approaches will help people to have fun with Carmanians.

--Peter Metcalfe            

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