Its all pre-Ban, of course, so Second Age Fronela is very different to how it becomes when the Ban comes into force, but it should give a good foundation for the sorts of questions posed in this thread.
What I should also add is that Trotsky's 'Heroes of Malkion' was an invaluable resource for putting this book together, along with various bits of wisdom from Pete Metcalfe.
2009/3/3 Peter Metcalfe <metcalph_at_SL9fzYx8F7yA9ppyvIv0Iv3W9M_mWB7ooDb3_AzDDEU1DX740XadfUguNpe03qKywtd3OhvxcBVYUyMfSqt06JpJ.yahoo.invalid>
> At 05:29 p.m. 3/03/2009, you wrote:
> > >Loskalm appears to have freed itself in a revolt
> > >before the Closing but was still cited
> >
> >cited where?
>
> The Middle Sea Empire, an unfinished worl.
>
> > >>3) Valmark: At some point, Loskalm seems to stretch all the way down
> the
> > >>Janube river valley. (Eastpoint) When? Pre-God learners? Post
> > >>God-learners?
>
> > >During the God Learner Period until the Carmanians came down and
> > >kicked ass.
>
> >So the God Learners kicked the EWF out of the area completely? The
> >Carmanians then knocked them off while still ostensibly God Learner-y or
> >was that after the GLs had fallen apart?
>
> Any EWF influence in Fronela has to be over the High Llama Pass
> and that gets obliterated by Alakoring circa 900s.
>
> > >Junora is really a land containing a number of independent nobles
> > >rather than an actual county.
>
> >I'd still probably put a Count as the big dog who at least took charge
> >during the ban. Obviously, as any kind of unified identity, they only
> >had the 100-odd years of the Ban for it, so I suspect it is a very
> >fragile construct.
>
> Junora was not isolated as an independent entity during the Ban
> - it was fragmented by the Ban and hence there is no Count.
> Instead of one big county, every town, village and manor was
> cut off from each other by the Ban. Some parts of Junora still
> have not been freed from the ban.
>
> >So there was a real fracturing of the religion post-God Learner's in
> >your view.
>
> I never spoke of a real fracturing and for the religion to have fractured
> after the God Learners would imply that it was unified to begin with
> - which I do not believe to be the case. The establishment of a
> Loskalmi church took place during the Ban - prior to that there
> were many different Loskalmi churches each with their own
> quirks.
>
> > >Wolves. Lots and lots of wolves. Werewolves to be more precise.
> > >Huge vicious werewolves. With wicked fangs.
> >
> >Well that's a good reason. So where do these werewolves come from? Was
> >there a long history of werewolves?
>
> The werewolves have been around since Talor's time, and for a while
> before then for he to have bothered cursing them.
>
> >(Or is this just over the mountain
> >from Telmor or something that I'm not noticing so it is pretty evident
> >there are going to be werewolves everywhere. Is the place still
> >crawling with werewolves?
>
> I imagine the Telmori crossed the High Llama Pass (eating all
> the High Llama in the process) and colonized the land closest
> to Telmoria. They were weakened greatly by Talor and hunted
> down during the Imperial Age (after Syranthir marched through).
> There are still werewolves around but they are usually genetic
> throwbacks rather than actual Telmori clans.
>
> > >I don't think the Syanorans are Gerlanti inspired.
>
> >Any reason?
>
> Gerlant isn't known for religious innovation - he's little more
> than a heroic king with a badass flaming sword.
>
> > >Rather the Church was established by the Wizard Halwal when he was
> seeking
> > >allies during the Sorcerer's War.
>
> >OK, What's the Sorcerer's War?
>
> A war between two Sorcerers that spanned the length and
> breadth of God Learner civilization at the time. They were
> fighting for largely personal reasons (Halwal wanted to be
> High Sorceror of the God Learners but was refused and so
> spent the next seventy years trying to destroy the God
> Learner establishment).
>
> >I was under the impression [the Arrolians] were more refugees. You
> >are implying
> >they had a philosophical/political difference of some type before the
> >nomad invasion and so they just took advantage to go off somewhere else
> >and do their own thing?
>
> They didn't take advantage - the religious differences they had were
> aggravated by the Seleran Crisis and so they undertook the decent
> option left open to them.
>
> > >They were freed by the ban at different times.
>
> >Any dates listed anywhere? That certainly means they were separate.
>
> The Genertela Book in the Genertela: Crucible of the Hero Wars
> boxed set.
>
> Riverjoin - 1597
> Southbank - 1603 (the origin of the name Southbank should alone
> indicate they were isolated from each other)
> Galastar - 1599
> Eastpoint - 1589
>
> > >Hrestolism is really a spiritual practice rather than a formal church in
> > >its own right.
>
> >Thus the idea that ALL churches in the first age or two were "hrestoli"
> >in some way.
>
> That's not the case. Hrestolism is the institution of knighthood and
> is not in and of itself a challenge to the accepted Malkioni caste
> structure. That early churches tolerated the practice of knighthood
> to some extent or another does not mean they were Hrestoli. Think
> of crusaders, friars, jedi, hermits and monks as examples of
> Hrestoli knight as opposed to the traditional knights.
>
> --Peter Metcalfe
>
>
>
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