Re: "Two Old Urbs" & Battle

From: Peter Metcalfe <metcalph_at_quicksilver.net.nz>
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 16:03:37 +1200

On 5/28/2013 12:47 PM, David Dunham wrote:
> The map on p. 14 shows "Two Old Urbs" as a subject people. I'm trying to figure out who those were (presumably someone whom the Lendarshi horse riders conquered during the Grey Age).
Urbs is city so looking at the map of Lendarshic Pelanda (Entekosiad p88), there are three possible candidates: Uthenos, Hariij where the Hungry Ones live and Balovius. I exclude Balovius because it is not listed among the FIve Peoples that Lendarsh found in Pelanda (Ent. p87) and the only reason for its appearance on the map seems to be that Lendarsh set the Law Rock there later on.

> Also on this map is a battle, shown between the Bisosae and the Lendarshi. The obvious guess is that this is "Bull Stops Here," but that battle is said [Entekosiad p.87] to take place near Karantes in Naveria, and this symbol is actually on the Oronin River as near as I can tell — nowhere near Naveria.

It may be the meeting in which Kiyargan appeared and tried to devour everybody (Ent. p87).

> Finally, what happened to this area with the "Rapid Expansion of Forest" by Khordavu's time [Fortunate Succession p.18]? It doesn't seem like the cattle folk suffered long term harm, but all Naveria appears wooded.
Supposedly an Elvish War against the Horselords on behalf of the World Council. Also seen here:

http://moondesignpublications.com/blog/jeff/historical-atlas-genertela-part-ii-first-age

But it looks more like an Elvish Conquest for their own purposes that the Elves said "For the World Council" when anybody asked them about it. The Forests are gone in less than a century for Erraibdavu conquers Pelanda and they don't pose any resistance. They reappear on and off again in the centuries after Nysalor's death.

--Peter Metcalfe