Re: Why is Kargzant a Spirit?

From: Todd Gardiner <todd.gardiner_at_bPBU5DlefXTzNQPtuPuPvrERG4kNZ8BKEgmWdTpldMgDmEoSXPYMuSXfBUPGFX>
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:14:16 -0800


The major forces of the middle world, such as the Sun, existing as "overlapping" entities in the otherworlds. There is an essential version of the sun, a divine version of the sun and a spiritual version of the sun.
>From the Godlearner perspective, this are separate and distinct entities,
which each represent the fullness of the observable phenomenon of the sun.

While the essence nature of things is not generally "worshiped" (although there is always misapplied worship) the other two are. The Horse peoples chose the Spirit Sun (or perhaps it chose them) and the Dara Happens descend from the sky world of the divine Otherworld.

Another example, Ernalda is the major god of the earth for Genertela, but Genert was the major spirit. Tragically, he died in the age of Darkness and now the spirit-tied lands of eastern Genertela suffer.

--Todd

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Stephen Tempest <e-g_at_J92MZfYMjj2NfqptyQzYS-cJqp6EZrCT4cG9LeF-GDlZm67oR-jCO-As_UP14pwp_evISy7D-f_maU8azUoq_kh7yw.yahoo.invalid>wrote:

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> "Nicholas P" <nick.the.nevermet_at_ezqpsq--ZzwEmh7q8tgEdh-z5nMU7YdYdU2bk10XpkE7QEYWWtgEkOO57l_RTasK0_4gt52-ZseZ9cezT-TWV51yPT9ZLg.yahoo.invalid <nick.the.nevermet%40gmail.com>>
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> >Are there any myths from Dara Happa & Pent (including the Grazers & the
> Char-Un) that account for why Kargzant is a spirit while Yelm & Co. are
> gods? I could also probably ask the same question about SurEnslib of the
> Darjiin. I also realize that Pentans and the Dara Happans likely have
> different understandings of this.
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> Personally, I've always thought that the 'Jenarong Rites' introduced
> by the Kargzanti nomads were misapplied worship of Yelm (or Antirius)
> by animists. This still gave the Hirenmador dynasty enough power of an
> unusual sort to achieve hegemony over the other horse nomads... but
> once the Dara Happans got their act together and rediscovered the
> proper theist Yelmic rites, they were able to rebel successfully.
>
> But I don't know whether that impression fits Glorantha as currently
> depicted. :-)
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> Stephen
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