Re: So what's SOLACE to a rokari ?

From: Jeff <richaje_at_6GzHlyyqQ73k1unkXhbEf2Auv98W8HeLgABV5cDNI4DystCI3Sj1qPztAsGp0M84I-oo>
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 12:02:17 -0000


> > Which certainly exist(ed) within some Hrestoli communities.
> > However, pretty much all Abiding Book Malkionism rejects that.
>
> Thanks. I'm slowly realizing that by trying to figure out forms of Malkionism, I'm developing one or two utterly heretical forms in the back of my head gradually. This amuses me more than it should.

Lots and lots of forms and schools of Malkionism, many of which are heretical (or even monstrous). Frex, there have been several schools in history that claim that Prima Materia is actually one of the Forms which preexisted existence, something widely considered heretical by both Zzaburite and Abiding Book Malkionism. The monstrous versions of that heresy holds that the Chaos Rune is the Prima Materia. Other schools have held that each wizard is in truth a demiurge - a Little Creator - reshaping the world according to his Will, resulting in an endless Fourth Age. The Brithini hold that Malkion's descent into the mire of the Fifth Action needed to be resisted and stopped, lest the world itself dissipate into the Void; a view widely held as heretical by non-Brithini.

> > Rokari largely reject veneration of teachers, heroes, and holy folk,
> > with the notable exception of Rokar and Pascandal.
>
> Interesting. So, wait, now I'm confused.

BTW, I screwed up by failing to mention the Sainted Teacher Mardron who showed Bailifes the Hammer the path of Rokar, reviving the One Righteous Kingdom.

> The MoHoHy Church has tons of saints, and so, the MoHoHy Dronari Association has a patron Saint. The Rokari Association, assuming it is not heretical, probably does not have a saint attached to it. Let's say both associations are for butchers, and as a result both associations would train its members in how to properly butcher animals, and this training would inevitably include spells.

Most likely.

> So, the Rokari association offers spells but not attached to a Saint.

Also most likely. Maybe the spells simply are a caste-appropriate recitation from the Sharp Abiding Book. Since Rokari Associations are often universal (as opposed to the purely local Orlanthi guilds), perhaps its guardian is the Essential Butcher.  

> I would imagine more than one Hrestoli looked at Rokarism and see something akin to sorcery. There's no Joy, and Solace isn't an existential state, so God is REALLY Invisible. Additionally one's religious/magical knowledge isn't necessarily filtered through the persona of a Saint.

Keep in mind that there are many many schools of Hrestolism. For example, the God Learners, the Castle Coast, and Loskalm are all classified as "Hrestoli" even though they disagree on almost everything except that Hrestol's Revelations were important and good. The Rokari and Brithini are interesting in that they utterly reject Hrestol's Revelations (either as foolish idiocy by the Brithini or evil hubris by the Rokari).

Jeff            

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